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Blissey’s most important stat: HP, A, or D?

Which stat (HP, Attack, or Defense) is the most important when choosing a Blissey to max out? When fighting against a Blissey with Machamp, which stat results in the most difficult battle for the Machamp? Thank you very much!

Asked by ayo4yeho6 years 7 months ago
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by ghao89 6 years 7 months ago

I think it's Attack, which mostly decides Blissey's CP. But the moveset matters a lot. ZH/DG is more preferred.

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Give it a example, a iv 82 Blissey with Att 15 can have cp perfection higher than 90%.

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Yes, having ZH/DG goes without saying.
OK thanks I was also thinking Attack but could see a case for HP too.

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Lvl 40 Blissey
a/d/hp, CP:

15/15/0 - 3172
15/0/15 - 3118
0/15/15 - 2883

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For gym defense I would almost argue HP is more important. Having the extra HP could stall an attacker for another second or two. It doesn't sound like much, but if this link is true the defender's HP is doubled while placed in a gym. A 10 point difference in HP IV could mean an extra 20 points of HP on defense:
https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/gym-combat-mechanics

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But Blissey's defense is pretty low, too. Higher defense can save it far more than 20 hp. Probably doesn't matter that much in the long run, but in a few close fights, I think attack, then defense, then HP.

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It used to be attack because it led to a higher CP, which was essential in the old gym system for gym placement. Now, I would probably go for HP.

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Bulk matters the most. The attack stat makes relatively little difference because of breakpoints, although it matters the most if you want to reach high CP, especially with Blissey.
Hp is the most important as maxed Machamps will deal the same damage to your full motivation Blissey regardless of def IV, again because of breakpoints. But higher def IV means your Blissey will decay down below breakpoints a little bit slower.
Hp>def>atk is how I've chosen my 6 maxed Blisseys.

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I just ran the simulation of lvl 40 Machamp vs lvl 40 Blissey varying Blissey's hp and defense from 10 to 15. Neither 5 hp, nor 5 def made any difference to the outcome...

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But if the attacker does not have a maxed out Machamp, Blissey with higher def IV can hit a higher bulk point.

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by Desss 6 years 7 months ago

A>D>>>>HP.

Whoever says hp is dead wrong. If you don't believe me, go to pokeassistant and do the simulations yourself.

EDIT: I will just add that housunkannatin makes a good case for choosing hp over def because of breakpoints. However, you need to consider whether in your area there are a lot of attackers with maxed out Machamps and take into account the fact that breakpoints change as motivation decreases.
EDIT2: While housunkannatin is right that there's no breakpoint for lvl 40 Blissey between 10 and 15 def vs lvl 40 15a Machamp, my simulations show that vs such Machamp 10 vs 15 hp makes no difference either. Probably better to just go for def, given how much more bulk it gives in other cases.

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by gibell 6 years 7 months ago

With a base HP of 510, adding 10 or 15 doesn't make a huge difference. Attack and Defense are more important to have high. A L40 ZH/DG Blissey can take out a L40 Machamp quite easily (no dodging), so your opponent will have to to dodge. And many people aren't good at dodging, or are lazy.

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I agree with this, it’s like in the main series. You would think to max out the EVs/IVs into its best stat but for Chansey/Blissey it was always best to maximize its defense since the percentage of increase compared to HP was more significant. I think it plays the same here.

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In the current gym system? Nothing much. I have a L40 15/15/15 Blissey and it doesn't really stand a chance if I'm feeding berries alone to keep gym colour for a raid, for example.

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Vs machamp attacker:
Time to win (s)
(lvl 40 / lvl 35)

Stamina 15
(47.5 / 45,9)

Defense 15
(48.2 / 46.2)

Attack 15
(47.3 / 46.1)

So i would say: D>S>A

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