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pokemon go is like sonic the hedgehog

Yes, i am comparing go to sonic. Before you send me to a loony asylum, here's why.

Although raids are very exciting and all that, they are not challenging, any noob can get tons of legendaries. You can just stand there, inflict little to no damage while everyone else does, and still catch it. Or i've seen people who haven't got a clue about type effectiveness, asking at every single raid what type to use, they can catch it too. I've got 29 dogs and i never wanted 29 dogs, it devalues the legendaries when we're so saturated with them. I've taken down entei with 4 people, too easy.

It's also very easy to complete your dex now, i've seen people who don't make a lot of effort with full dexs. When the game first came out this wasn't the case, i used to have to go nest hunting and go to other cities (my town is not very big) to finish gen 1. I put a lot of effort into it. But in gen 2 i haven't needed to.

Also, gyms are now complete rubbish. The old system was pretty rubbish but at least you could build a gym that was challenging to take down. Now its impossible, everyone can take down any gym, there's no defense meta, gyms are no challenge at all. We're all just using them to get our 50 coins and that's it.

The way i see all this, Pokemon go has become a game for noobs. For me this is unsatisfying cos it makes the game unchallenging, i enjoy a challenge. The game is fun but too easy, like sonic the hedgehog (the original ones that is) was a fun game that's really easy to complete.

Sonic the hedgehog was also a popular game so i don't blame Niantic for making it this way, they're out to sell the game afterall. Noobs want it easy and they've got it easy.

I've got a mewtwo ex raid pass this weekend (i consider myself very fortunate in that regard.) I will hopefully catch the mewtwo then retire from go until the next big update, there's just no new challenges for me after that point.

Last thing, Niantic are doing absolutely nothing to combat spoofers. I see all spoofers as noobs, afterall they're doing no walking which should be the point of the game. As i said, Go is a game for noobs ;)

Asked by harrytipper27 years 8 months ago

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You have some good points. I'm no noob (level 37), but can't get legendaries (rural), so I've been excluded; but noobs lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time can. Is that fair? Also, like you said, the new gyms don't take much effort to take down and any noob can place a defender.

Of course, Niantic wants/needs new players, I get it. But they could make it more challenging for experienced players. As for me, my goal is to solo t3 bosses, something no noob can hope to achieve (so far, neither have I).

I'm forever patient that the game will get better.... and it will always be the best exercise app. So I'll keep on playing, at least for now.

Sucks you can't get legendaries, go has always been highly dependant on where you live unfortunately!

Yeh soloing tier 3 bosses is one of the few interesting challenges for pros. i made a thread once suggesting bigger prizes when you solo a boss (might encourage participation for level 1 and 2 bosses aswell.) I soloed a vaporeon the other week and i felt a rare sense of achievement that Go rarely gives me these days!

Hopefully the game will get better, one day :)

Would be great if we had more bosses like those, it would give people an incentive to get stronger since gyms don't even put up a good fight anymore. It's like the final boss of a game's level.

My goal also. I have not soloed them yet either. It is not easy.

If you enjoy a challenge then I presume you have soloed the level 3 raid bosses. Have you done so? That is indeed a challenge. I think the game has something for all skill levels.

But the rewards from that raid are the same as if 10 noobs did the raid. it's a challenge that gives you no special prizes if you succeed, just pride.

I rarely get the opportunity to try them anyway because my free pass obviously has to go on a legendary or a tyranitar. i still need those raids prizes even though they're no challenge!

This is how the game is.

This game has never been about skill or anything like that. Like any mobile game, it strips down to luck: Luck of living in an area dense in pokestops, gyms, and rare spawn points; luck of walking at the right place at the right time when a rare spawn takes place; luck of even choosing a team that benefits your desired playing style (if you're like me and you have had the same account since the beginning); luck of getting a favorable RNG result when spinning disks, defeating raid bosses, and getting an actual catch inside a Pokeball; luck of hatching rare Pokemon and getting them with high IVs; luck of getting an EX pass. I could go on all night long.

This is a grinding game not unlike candy crush and all those addicting low-end games designed to keep you hooked. This isn't a main-series game where there are clear objectives and the learning curve is progressive. You make up the challenges for yourself and if you can't find anything that interests you then the best thing you can do is leave. If you grind too hard you are bound to run out of content very fast and you're the only one responsible for it. Just don't blame Niantic for your shortcomings, it's getting tiring to read people complain about their high amount of legendaries, as if Niantic had just placed them in their storage. If you have too many of them it is because you are a hard grinder and maybe even probably spend money in the game on a regular base, but no one has forced you to do that.

I honestly don't know why I keep playing but there's something I still enjoy about this game even if there's no purpose to it. I destroy blue/yellow gyms left and right every time I come across them, even if I have already gotten my daily 50 coins, just because. I still find joy in hatching a cool Pokemon and filling my Pokedex and whatnot. I prefer the new gym system a thousand times more than the old one, which highly favored spoofers. I don't buy items with real money, and because of that raids are scarce to me. I get my daily raid and that's it. If it was a legendary, that's cool. If it wasn't that's cool too. I have about 10 legendaries in total because of the way I've decided to play and I defeated my first Ttar boss for the first time today. The game can feel special and be more enjoyable is you play more casually and stop taking it so seriously. Just a thought....

If you grind too hard you are bound to run out of content very fast and you're the only one responsible for it actually Niantic are the one responsible for that, for not adding fresh and more challenging content. Candy crush has an almost infinite supply of levels so you can grind forever and still have something new to achieve, so that's not a very good comparison on your part.

If your solution to keep go special is to grind less (i.e. deliberately play worse.) that's not exactly a ringing endorsement of the game. maybe i should play with my eyes closed aswell, to make it more challenging!

your logic is absurd tbh.

Very good points presented. No one forced you to pay out of pocket to speed up the process of your Pokedex completed or how fast you would get closer to level 40. There's no other way to "play worse" than not playing at all; get at least one catch and one Pokestop spin. It's literally a play at your own pace game where real money can actually fluctuate your outcome. There's no end game to this like Candy Crush.

he's correct in saying the game gets stale if you grind too much (though blaming me for grinding too much is absurd.)

I've been looking forward to mewtwo for a while, catching it is the end game. Like sonic the hedgehog, when you defeat robotnik there's ntohing else to do till the next sonic is released ;)

Yeah but at the same time what exactly is the Challenge in soloing t3 raid bosses? The challenge of having the patience to collect and power up the best mons with the best movesets as listed already on the Internet? Then once you have them mash the screen the same as any other raid? Even with this its not skill based. Just need to look on the Internet for which mons you need to power up then hope you find them often enough. And that depends on where you live and luck, not skill unfortunately. Sorry to be negative. I'd love depth added to the game, tactics, strategy. But it's just glorified rock paper scissors dumbed down even more than the original games. The game couldn't be any shallower. But i don't believe they'll ever make it much better. If they made it better and more attractive than the gameboy games then Nintendo wouldn't sell gameboys anymore.

what you say about soloing t3 bosses is technically correct. But for GO it still is one of the biggest challenges it has!

I think you summed up my point, game doesn't have the depth, it's for noobs. That's why i intend to become a casual part timer after getting mewtwo cos there's nothing else to do. I did the same thing after finishing gen 1 because at that time there was nothing more to do.

I still like the game and eagerly await the next big update :)

What pisses me off in this game is the unbalance between the number of Blue, yellow and Red teams. I am from the yellow team and here is very hard to get 50 coins daily, because when I take down a gym, 5 minutes later, the gym is taken down and turn blue again. There is much more blue team than the others colours.
At the raid The yellow team member almost never get damage and gym bonus balls.