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[Idea] Eeveelution stat balance

Just an idea. Since Niantic already broke the base stat formula with Mewtwo, they should do this too. Vaporeon is too overpowered.

All Eeveelutions have a BST of 600.

Vaporeon: ATT 200, DEF 170, STA 230
Jolteon: ATT 245, DEF 220, STA 135
Flareon: ATT 256, DEF 204, STA 140
Espeon: ATT 266, DEF 194, STA 140
Umbreon: ATT 190, DEF 230, STA 180

This way, Jolteon, Flareon and Espeon will also be better than a legendary, just like Vaporeon.

Asked by DragoniteSlayer7 years 8 months ago

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This looks to me more like a boost for all the other eveelutions. :)

Hey, I see your point that Vaporeon is stronger than the other eeveelotiuns, esp compared to the legendaries. So you mentioned that it is too overpowered.
Now my suggestion would be that vaporeon should get a little nerf because in your suggestion legendaries become useless as even a Jolteon or a Flareon are stronger than a legendary + they are much easier to get.
So legendaries won't be legendary anymore at all.
PS: Sorry for bad english

Why eeveelutions need to be better than legendaries? In that case no one would bother to spend money in raiding legendaries. And secondly, the lifetime performance of a pokemon is a product of its stats, not a sum... For example pokemon with 200&200&200 would be much better than one with 100&100&400 (when looking at its lifetime performance)

In the original games, the Eeveelutions' base stats were balanced by the sum of their base stats, not a product.

Yes I know, but if you want to make them "equal" product has to be same, not sum.

And if not, I misunderstood your point

The eeveelutions all have at least one stat that is significantly lower than the legendaries' equivalent stat. Or in Umbreon's case, Tyranitar.

I'm assuming this is a joke thread ;)

If they made the eevolutions better than legendaries, people aren't going to bother trying to find a good IV legendary. Just catch one for the pokedex and that's it.

That costs Niantic money. Any idea that costs them money ain't going to happen!

Too late.

At this point I don't support Ninatic switching any pokemon in game stats.

Vaporeon really isn't too strong anymore. That was the case a year ago, but now there are plenty of good mons.

They should give Suicane a 9% buff.

The issue is how the stats are calculated, as all eevolutions have 525 Base stats total in the main game series, however ATK and SPA are merged using a formula (highest * 7/8 + lowest*1/8), Speed is compounded into ATK (if >70 it increases a little, if <70 decreases a little), and HP is just doubled.

So what's the problem here? There are 3 main problems here:
- ATK: This formula penalizes mixed attackers too much.
- DEF: Def should be averaged, as it otherwise removes the weakness specialists used to have (ex. Blissey would get recked by phisical attackers, as it only has 10 Def), this stat should be averaged.
- HP should not be doubled, as it benefits pokemon with high HP much more than pokemon that have high Def, SPDef, Speed, Atk or SPAtk.