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Cycle DPS results

Move DPS/Cycle (Not adjusted for Base stat)
Gengars Hex Shadow B 22.4
Machamp Counter Dyn P 22.2
Gengar Hex Sludge B 21.1
Crobat Air Sl Sludge B 21.1
Machamp Counter Close C 20.5
Piloswine Powder Sn Avalanche 20.4
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Tyranitar Bite Crunch 17.7
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Espeon Conf Psychic 15.8
Dragonite DT Hurricane 15.7

New meta is all about EPS and Power/Energy consumtion. Forget charge move cooldown when calc DPS. It only affect dodging.

Havent done maths for all so could be missing some. Figures are for first cycle, so you may have slightly better values for second cycle for 2 and 3-bar moves.

Asked by Erik7678 years 4 months ago
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Piloswine actually top 3 with 21.3

My new dragonslayer since frostbreath got nerfed badly.

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I think Stone edge tyranitar would be a lot better than the crunch one.

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Chariz AirSl OverH 21.9

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Is this how they determine moveset rankings for each Pokémon on this site?

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IDK, it makes sense, but something is missing in your calculations

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Could be, but I calc how many qm needed to load a charge move, how much time this cycle takes, and how much damage it makes. Adjust for SE. Energy and cd for each move from Gamepress.

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What's missing is the attacker's ATK stat, as you mentioned in the post. If you multiply each by the pokemon's ATK, that will give you the correct ordering of actual DPS. If you want to turn them back into DPS numbers, divide by some representative DEF, like 200 or something.

You could also put in a taking-damage energy factor, but nobody wants to deal with that. In practice it would benefit the low-EPS moves.

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You are right. I made the spreadsheet because I watched trainertips last vlog where he compares moves, and I thought he gave the wrong info. So no base stats adjustments yet. Only move comparisons.

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Yeah, that bothered me too. Simply averaging the DPS of quick and charge is idiotic and misleading: if there was a charge move that instantly did 1 damage whenever your bar was full, that would technically be infinite DPS, and put it at the top of their chart, but it would be awful.

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