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I've evolved 10 Machop to Machamp and never gotten a dual Fighting moveset.
On my eleventh try I got Counter/Close Combat. From what I can see Dynamic Punch would've been better, but how much better?

What would you do? Invest or save up for a new one?
I have a Machop nest right outside my door for another week, so candy isn't a problem.

Asked by andeuph7 years 11 months ago
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Beliave me you wont get a double fighting set soon...
I m on the same train i evolved like 10 and got only 1 double fighting set...
Something is fcked up with machamps

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Depending on IVs and level I'd power it up, but wait till the nest disappears before you make your decision.

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by aSp 7 years 12 months ago

I have the exact same scenario.
I will be powering up my C/CC before I try for another.
A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

As for your nest...it changed a couple of hours ago - so either you have lost your nest, or you have it for another 2 weeks.

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I've evolved over 15 Machops and just recently got C/CC after try 11 since then I did 5 more and got 2 more C/CC, iv"s aren't amazing all 70-85% but for attacking it's irrelevant. I said I'm done trying for C/DP and put one at level 33.5 other two to level 30. I don't know from expericensince I don't have C/DP but I can tell you C/CC is extremely good can best two +2700 snorlax in a row and just beat 2950 Blissey with ZH/DG with 15% hp left....imo max it out 100%

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Yes funkysho- in the battle vs the snorlax only reason there is a hp difference at the end is bc he misses a dodge vs body slam besides that results are identical

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by Puppi 7 years 12 months ago

I don't know whether to feel sorry for you or not lol. If you have the resilience to farm and evolve 10 Machamp duds in a row then maybe you're enjoying the challenge? x)

That is seriously rough though. Respect.

Counter is a very good quick move. Close Combat is ok (it's energy inefficient). As a combination they make a good moveset.

Dynamic Punch is significantly better than Close Combat. It is one of the best charge moves in the game for attack.

Most players will like C/CC. It is a good moveset. If your guy is high enough level then try him out for a bit.

Unfortunately statistics doesn't care about past performance. Our old mate statistics doesn't care that you've evolved 11 Machamps without getting the MS you want. Your next one will still have a ~17% chance of C/DP. It's up to you where you draw the line. At least you've got a C/CC under your belt. :)

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Also BP/DP is pretty good, not as good as both mentioned movesets but my level 30 can take out a 2700 Blissey with this moveset. It's also pretty fun to use.

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by sta 7 years 12 months ago

I feel your pain. I have evolved 4 machamps since gen2 and all of them are bullet punch. I will keep trying, but meanwhile I have powered up some glass cannons like espeon and gengar as blissey counters. From what I read, C/CC damage ouput is about 95% of C/DP, so pretty close. Not sure the difference to dodging though. Also I am using a level 30 RS/DP poliwrath as a mini-machamp for lower cp blisseys

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by mahzza 7 years 12 months ago

I was nearly exactly in your shoes (minus 4 attempts), and I decided to power up my 75% C/CC because I needed a damn Machamp with fighting moves and I was tired of beating my head against the wall.

Dynamic Punch is better, but not THAT much better. Your Machamp will do the job; power it up.

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by Jayem 7 years 12 months ago

DP is better because is two bar moves which deals 90, while CC deals 100 in 1 bar move, you use cc and have to reload the bar again, unlike dp where you can launch two in a row

CC has better cd and the damage is high too, is not bad, is just DP is better in DPS wise, that is all

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by GS1 7 years 12 months ago

Jeez. That's a lot of machop candies. You guys must be tripping over them. I've only evolved 4 Machamps. First one was KC/CC when Champs were irrelevant, second was BP/HS (ugh) and the third and fourth were.......back to back C/DP! Woo hoo!!

I would keep grinding for candies to evolve again. Don't give up!

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I am using my C/CC Machamp, same issues, trust me Niantics knows what they are doing. HIGH IVS= RUBBISH MS. You can go on a thread i opened, many people are sufffering from the same shit.

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Fun fact: the DPS difference between Counter/DP and Counter/CC (about 10%) is larger than the DPS difference between Dragon Tail/Outrage and DT/Hyper Beam (7.5%); but for some reason people advocate powering up Close Combat while they hate Hyper Beam for Dragonite.

People are weird. Do what suits your play style, but a 10% difference in DPS is either minimal if you play casually, or extreme if you're a perfectionist.

Cheers.

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