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Giratina Origin Forme Duo Raid Guide

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Tier 5 Raid Boss Guides
Giratina-Origin-Duo
Difficulty:

Requires specific high level counters or weather boost

HP15,000 ATK177.81 DEF224.44
CP Range
Lvl 20 2018 - 2105 Lvl 25 2523 - 2631

Notable Weather

Boosts Boss's Moves Boosts Counters' Moves
Fog, Windy Snow, Fog, Windy, Cloudy

Fast Move Difficulty

Move Difficulty
Dragon Tail Challenging
Shadow Claw Intermediate

Charge Move Difficulty

Move Difficulty
Dragon Pulse Challenging
Ominous Wind Easy
Shadow Ball Intermediate

Overview

Giratina - Origin Forme is a very powerful Pokemon that a lot of people want/need in order to build a complete raid and/or PvP team. And good news; it is very possible to duo this Pokemon, especially in the proper weather and a Mega Boost. In fact, a huge number of Pokemon hit the required 25 DPS to be duo-viable

The issue with this: Giratina - Origin Forme hits like a truck. Despite some Pokemon sporting obscene DPS against this monster, it will cause most teams to wipe and lose as a result, so prioritizing TDO can be important for the duo, so long as the team has an average DPS above the target 25 DPS.

Approach

Team composition

  • For Dragon movesets, bring Ghosts. For Ghost movesets, bring Dragons. Dark Types fill in the gaps for any moveset, but prefer fighting against Ghost Type attacks.
  • Try to sync up types with your team in order to maximize the Mega Boost
  • Having each player bring a single Mega and simply using a Max Postion and re-entering when your Pokemon drops is actually a viable option. In fact, even Mega Gyarados can pull this strategy off.
  • For less coordinated teams, a solid mix of DPS up-front followed by TDO tanks in the back can help make the raid more manageable.

Dodging strategy

  • Dodging is a good idea, especially if you've got a few super high DPS options.

Best Raid Boss Counters

Supreme Mega Evolutions

Mega Rayquaza Mega Rayquaza
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Giratina may be a Ghost, but it's also a Dragon. And whenever a Dragon shows up, chances are very good that Mega Rayquaza is going to make its presence known.

Mega Rayquaza is arguably the absolute best counter here, rivaled in practice only by Mega Tyranitar most of the time. However, it's huge DPS and useful Dragon boost genuinely allow it to pull ahead in most situations, even if it is weak to Giratina's own Dragon Type moves.

Mega Tyranitar Mega Tyranitar
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Mega Tyranitar is the absolute TDO option for this raid, outlasting everything else thanks to its useful resistances and high natural bulk. On top of that, its DPS is also great in its own right, making it very much a worthwhile pick, even in the presence of Mega Rayquaza.

Mega Gengar Mega Gengar
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Mega Gengar falls behind the competition in this raid, but it's still a DPS monster that's capable of dealing huge damage in its time on the field. It's also the best Ghost Type Mega Evolution for this raid, so it's able to differentiate itself if a raid group is heavily invested in Ghosts.

Good Mega Evolution Counters

Mega Garchomp Mega Garchomp
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While it can't keep up with Mega Rayquaza, Mega Garchomp hits like a truck and is a good backup Dragon option here.

Mega Banette Mega Banette
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Basically demi-Gengar in this raid, Mega Banette keeps up high DPS, but falls short by every metric when compared to the Ghost King. Still, it can be a solid backup/budget option if you don't want to spend the Gengar Mega Energy.

Mega Salamence Mega Salamence
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Mega Salamence wasn't able to shine for long before Mega Rayquaza's shadow completely covered it, and it will probably never get a chance to shine again. Still, it's an objectively good backup Mega that can put up a real fight if Mega Rayquaza is otherwise occupied.

Mega Latios Mega Latios
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Mega Latios is a decent backup Dragon Mega, but it's also a risky prospect for this raid. Its Dragon/Psychic typing makes it weak to everything that Giratina can throw at it, so it's probably not going to last for an extremely long time. Still, it's a solid choice if you know that your raid group is leaning heavily into Dragon counters.

Mega Gardevoir Mega Gardevoir
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Fairy Types are under-powered here, but Mega Gardevoir has the advantages needed to be worth considering. In particular, a 2x resistance to Dragon Type moves... at the cost of a weakness to Ghost, which is generally worse for this raid. Still, it's a good option in-and-of itself.

Supreme Counters

Shadow Salamence Shadow Salamence
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The current Dragon King, Shadow Salamence hits very hard and is always a great option. Even when fighting Dragon Type movesets, it still has the DPS to make it very worthy of a team slot for this raid.

Shadow Garchomp Shadow Garchomp
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Shadow Garchomp is one of the Pokemon at the forefront of the non-Mega Dragon meta, and it's an outstanding choice here. High power makes it a very, very good pick that can put in the work.

Shadow Dragonite Shadow Dragonite
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All of the statements in regards to Shadow Salamence apply here, but with a bit less DPS/a bit more bulk.

shadow_chandelure Shadow Chandelure
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Shadow Chandelure is arguably the master of the non-Mega Ghost meta at the moment, and it definitely puts in great work here despite its own weakness to Giratina's many Ghost Type moves.

ShadowTyranitar Shadow Tyranitar
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Despite its little arms, Shadow Tyranitar can drop powerful Brutal Swings while staying alive for a good, long time. If you're after TDO mixed with great DPS, then this is the Pokemon for you.

PalkiaOrigin Palkia (Origin Forme)
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Palkia's Origin Forme is a great option here, sporting outstanding Dragon Type DPS that approaches the big Shadows.

Good Counters

ShadowWeavile Shadow Weavile
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A bit on the squishy side, Shadow Weavile is still a great attacker for this raid. It prefers facing Ghost Type movesets, as do most Dark Types, but it's useful against any moveset. Just be ready to dodge!

Shadow Mewtwo Shadow Mewtwo
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If Shadow Mewtwo can deal Super Effective damage, Shadow Mewtwo will be in the Raid Guide at some point.

As one of the highest DPS options with Shadow Ball, Shadow Mewtwo is definitely a force to be reckoned with, though it doesn't really appreciate Giratina's Ghost Type moves. Dodging is a must for this Pokemon, as you want its reign of terror to last for as long as possible.

DialgaOrigin Dialga (Origin Forme)
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While the fact that it only takes neutral damage from Dragon Type moves is of limited utility here, Dialga - Origin Forme is still a great option here.

Shadow Latios Shadow Latios
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ShadowSwine Shadow Mamoswine
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A blast from the past, Shadow Mamoswine joins Shadow Weavile as a top Ice Type attacker for this raid.

Rayquaza Rayquaza
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The original Dragon King, Rayquaza will pretty much always show up as an option against Dragon Type Raid Bosses. Just watch out for Dragon Type movesets!

Salamence Salamence
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With a performance remarkably close to Rayquaza, Salamence is another staple.

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One of the most vanilla Dragons on this list, Haxorus has pretty consistent damage thanks to Breaking Swipe.

Shadow-Honchkrow Shadow Honchkrow
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This Dark mob-boss-bird can work well here.

ShadowGardevoir Shadow Gardevoir
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Shadow Gardevoir is a bit polarizing. If you're facing Dragon Breath/Dragon Pulse, its double Dragon Type resistance makes it a great option. But if you're up against Ghost Type moves, then it's going to fold pretty quickly.

shadow-gengar Shadow Gengar
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Shadow Gengar hits like an absolute truck, but it's also extremely frail. Don't expect it to stay long, but do expect it to deal a ton of damage.

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Chandelure Chandelure
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Enamorus Enamorus (Incarnate Forme)
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Enamorus doesn't quite have Shadow Gardevoir's power, but its better sub-typing means it's not weak to Ghost Type moves.

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Hydreigon Hydreigon
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While a bit in the shadows of the... Shadows... Hydreigon is still a solid dragon in its own right,

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