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So... Talking about the offensive part of the game, what could be useful with this new moves???

Roserade with Grass Knot
Donphan with Mud Slap
Honchcrow with Sky Attack
"Ho-Oh with Hidden Power if you're so llucky to have it flying/fire"
"Kabutops with WaterFall"

The rest? Just a little bit more of random when using TMs? Or did I miss something?

Asked by Mad_lugano6 years 2 months ago
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by Sebhes 6 years 2 months ago

Snorlax with Outrage to counter Giratina?
Raikou with Shadow ball?
Machamp with rock slide?

Just wondering, give me your thoughts if you know more about it

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Based on his question I'll guess he meant more for raids than pvp, which he basically covered the best potential new moves

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GK Roserade is solidly the best grass for now and slightly better than the incoming FP Sceptile.
MS Donphan is now the 5th best ground attacker, between Rhydon and Golem.
SA Honchkrow is now the highest flying DPS, but still can't compete with other types in most situations where flying is SE.
HP:Fire Ho-Oh isn't even in the top 10 of fire types. Fire Blast is just that bad.
WF Kabutops is unfortunately held back by the terrible Water Pulse, it has less water DPS than Wailord.

These are the only ones with any PvE potential from what I can see. The rest of the changes only matter for PvP and some of them might be quite relevant. Psyshock A-Ninetales and Thunder Punch Muk for Twilight Cup for example.

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I had to double-check the Roserade thing because I couldn't believe it at first. It's actually kind of nice that the elite grass attacker isn't locked to a 3-hour exclusive move anymore, though that stands to change when Megas are introduced.

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DPS/TDO for Machamp seems to make honchcrow an immediate solid attacker. Glassy, but alakazam and espeon always have been, too. Should be great for any other fighting Pokémon, and will shred Heracross if it ever comes to raids!

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I‘d assume Ice Beam on Suicune is pretty good for PvP, especially with a potential Water Gun (hopefully, that will be the event move if we ever get a Suicune raid day)

Edit: Scratch that idea, I just saw that Suicune can‘t even learn Water Gun (could have sworn it could, only instance was in Gold and Silver, but was already in Crystal removed, so that most likely won‘t happen)

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Snarl has pretty good EPT and hits Giratina for SE so should be an acceptable option. I'm pretty hyped for Suicune, it has monstrous bulk and the coverage from IB should help a lot in making it viable.

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