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Anyone else have FOMO when evolving?

I'm holding onto a 100% magikarp because I don't want to get screwed if Niantic ever does a magikarp CD (however unlikely that may be) and since there's not much raid usage for water pokemon right now.

Asked by mwa6 years 10 months ago

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Yes, but not with Gyrados. He's as good as he will ever be, so evolve if you want to. I caught a 100% Magikarp during the previous Kanto event and the only reason I haven't evolved mine is I have over 40 Kyogres, so it seems pointless to evolve another Gyrados.

But I agree with you. I'm sitting on two 98% female Ralts because I'm hoping Gardevoir will get a fairy fast move and I have a feeling if she gets one it will be a Community Day exclusive and I probably won't evolve a Garchomp until Gible Community Day because Niantic will probably give Garchomp trash moves when gen 4 comes out.

I love that Community Day moves made Venusaur and Charizard relevant and gave Dragonite another strong Dragon move even if not as good as Outrage, but giving great Pokemon trash moves while saving the good ones for Community Day feels like a lousy way to treat players.

I disagree. Mega Gyarados could be much better, and could gain a dark typing, making the double dark moveset viable. Sure, that's in gen6 or so, a few years away. So I'm saving the level 30 perfect Magikarp I caught in the spring for that. I already have two decent Gyarados powered up, and they are only really excel against Groudon, other than that, Kyogre is a better option.

Yes, I admit we don't know how mega forms will work. Maybe you can simply throw a switch to turn Gyarados into Mega-Gyarados, either permanently, or for a while, or maybe you have to evolve into the form. So I'm leaving Mr. Perfect Karp right where he is until we have more information. About the only way this could hurt me is if the Gyarados has to have been evolved for a few years before you can Mega form it, and I have others that meet that requirement. Oh, and 2000+ Karp candy. It wouldn't shock me if as many as 4000 candy were needed to get a Mega form, so I'm working for that (passively, I'm not pinap berrying every Karp I see, just catching them).

If the OP doesn't have a strong Gyarados, sure, evolve it and power it up. If the OP has one, no rush to get another. Just keep collecting 'karp candy, and if you need one, you can power it up pretty easily.

Yes and all these "evolve 10 water pokemon" quests are screwing me up

Watching my thousands of candy reserves fade out gradually is not cool. Not cool Niantic.

But my biome doesn't allow me to skip on Dragons. The worm lizards have always been so elusive here that I am just programmed to actively hunt for them now that I can get a few a day.

What water pokemon are you evolving that you think could get a CD? Most of them are trash that doesn't have a chance if you ask me, and for starters it makes sense to only evolve to the second stage, which isn't compromising saving them for CD anyway.

You never know, that's what FOMO is all about. When CDs were introduced it just became open season on everything and it stopped making sense to evolve anything at all unless it was immediately necessary. Even if many of them end up being trash right away, things like Dragon Pulse on Ampharos set a concerning precedent of things to come if you have played any of the latest games. If you haven't then I don't think I can explain it to you in a way that makes sense, but a legacy-anything can become super valuable out of the blue because of the way Niantic likes to do things, even if only for collectors. And I am a massive collector. Each generation game I make it my mission to have a living dex with all abilities and egg moves and variants available to that game. I really enjoy that aspect of Pokemon but it is because of that I have an itch to collect anything that might be useful at any given time and I am always close to 1500 mons in PoGO. It is a nightmare because I have resorted to keeping only the best IVs specimen of each species unless I need more than one for meta purposes. So I mostly only have a few hundos or Pokemon above 96% unevolved critters waiting for a time to shine that I really would prefer to not touch, which has proven very difficult as of late.
Adding to this is the fact that I live in a mix of desert and urban biomes and water mons only appear during events and shit. So I always have a massive stock of fire/ground/fighting type candies but I am always running low on water ones in general.
Everything I could evolve to just a second stage evolution is already evolved. That includes all my water starters among other things. My stock of withheld water types of running on fumes...

Also..

They WILL eventually run out of meta-gods to feature during CDs. Gen 4 only has Garchomp. So anything could be a candidate for a CD sometime in the future. There's not even a set rule that states that species that have already had their shinies released could not be featured. There are no rules actually. Just bleak patterns.
Anyways....
That's the mindset of a super active player with FOMO and no other endgame goals.

Kudos to you for sticking to the hardcore collecting, my playstyle is much more oriented towards grinding and I simply can't support lots of collection mons because of that.

There aren't any rules (or at least any that we know about), but there's the simple fact that CDs exist solely to drive sales and pokemon aren't equal in their ability to drive sales as the featured mon. Niantic is a business and their main objective with POGO is to make money. Thus we can deduce that most pokemon are not possible candidates for CDs because they would be too uninteresting for the larger playerbase and Niantic putting resources into making those community days would not make financial sense for them.

So this is why I will continue believing that all future CDs will only feature pokemon that are iconic, rare and/or meta-relevant. As for running out of mons to feature, that's not a danger. Out of gens 1-3 we still have (by my estimation) Machop, Abra, Gastly, Lotad, Ralts, Slakoth, Trapinch, Bagon as possibilities. Just with these we can get past gen 4 starters if alternating months continues, by which point we'll be at February 2020 and gen 5 should already be out. EDIT: And by that point they could easily start rerunning old ones.

tl;dr Financial incentives can be trusted. They won't make any trash mon into a CD because it doesn't make them money.

EDIT: I must admit to having FOMO in a few cases, like Ralts. But my playstyle is so grind heavy that most mons are just fodder to me, resources to be expended and then discarded.

True but also that list is pretty much what I was referring to; once you start getting into things like trapinch and 5ks like machop or abra I would say they would be thin-lining the selection of CD candidates. I would include other gen 1 species because they are simply that iconic.
Reruns could definitely be thing tho, I hadn't thought about that although I am not sure how well will the community accept them...
But take in mind that a trash species can be made useful just by changing its moves. That's the whole gimmick of CD starters and that's what they did to Machamp when they changed its moveset. So I wouldn't discard many possibilities. We could have a Poliwrath CD for example, Poliwag being an extremely trashy Mon by today's standards. That idea is what drives my FOMO in PoGO: that anything can become good by flicking a switch.
BTW, random thought, but how exactly do you think Niantic makes money out of C-Days? By community box sales? I am sure they sell a few but it's nothing compared to what they must sell on community raid days with premium passes alone. Maybe it's a local thing but I've never known of anyone who has bought a community day box.

I've actually been thinking reruns will happen also because the community will want them at some point. There are always new and returning players, or just active players who couldn't warp their schedules to fit Niantic's ridiculous 3h event windows. At some point it will add up to enough people who want a rerun that it makes sense for Niantic to do it.

There are limits to what can become good. Machamp has 52 base attack over Poliwrath and already sports one of the best movesets in the game ignoring typing. Poliwrath with Counter/Fighting type Hydro Cannon would still be worse than C/CC Machamp. Granted, that's much better than what Poliwrath currently is, which is relevant for a collector (or a unique soloist like myself).

Player activity correlates positively with coin sales (assumption but I can't see how it could not since the game is still running) and CDs always create a burst of player activity. Without data it's impossible to estimate what exactly causes profit to roll in, but the fact that they still hold the CDs speaks for itself, it must be profitable or they would have scrapped the idea.

Makes sense but I am still more inclined to believe they will do a full rotation of C-Days for "useless" species before trying to go back to the beginning. By "useless" I mean things like Abra or Lotad where they will never be on top of their respective types metagame but will be more serviceable by means of a better attack menu. Of course there are limits, but that didn't stop Nia from going forward with Chikorita CD or trying something crazy for Ampharos.

Sure, I think Abra and Lotad for example are perfectly reasonable CD mons. But I still feel safe evolving most species if I don't feel like they fit the bill.

Chikorita couldn't be skipped because starters are all about symmetry and all of them have fans, whereas Ampharos was one of the main collectibles of gen 2. Both had solid reasons for getting their CD.

I did the Dratini quest three times yesterday (all at once). It was easy to find simple things like Marill and Wooper to evolve, and I had a Lotad at level 35 with decent IVs that I evolved all the way to Ludicolo (but got a crap moveset, not worth TMing). An old polywag, and a few others, and I was there.

Pray for rain, and keep your eyes open for mixed types. Lotad comes out when it's sunny, as does Wooper, Poliwag when it's cloudy, etc.

i would evolve it depending on its cp cause there is no point in maxing an lvl 1 magikarp into in high gyrados
so if there is an high lvl magikarp evolve it gyrados is a very powerfull pokemon

It's just starters and rare Pokémon that I am holding off evolving. Magikarp doesn't fall into either bracket for me, and as rainbowthief pointed out, highly unlikely Gyara will get any better. Also, the shiny is already out too so that perhaps rules out a Magi CD.

Most pokemon aren't at risk of getting a CD so I don't care unless it seems like a likely candidate. In particular, anything that already has a shiny is almost 100% guaranteed to not get a CD. Pretty much starters and 10k egg pokemon with 3 stages are what I'm careful with.

I disagree.
CDs were introduced when gen 3 was already out and we are already running out of good "obvious" candidates. We went from gen1 to gen3 on a single generation span.
We are already getting Beldum for next one, ffs. That leaves only a handful of rare 10k egg, evolving Pokemon and 5 starters for the current generations. Than what? Gen 4 only has Garchomp and the starters! So I think it is pretty viable that non-pseudos or species with already-released shinies might become featured in future C-Days, simply because we'll run out of meta-defining candidates way before gen 5 is released.

Check my other reply, we aren't even close to running out of good candidates.

I did evolve one Salamance and metagross, mostly because evolutions and dex filling is my main goal. I'm holding off powering either up until their respective CDs.

Are there any better moves that Gyarados could learn for Community Day?

A flying set perhaps.
Bounce as a move comes to mind

Surf would be a small upgrade to HP but that's about it. All damaging water moves Gyarados could learn are already in the game. No chance to get double flying movesets since Hurricane is a charge move and the only other damaging flying move Bounce has too much base power to become a fast.

EDIT: So I guess double flying is just slightly unlikely instead of impossible. Neat.

Waterfall is a fast move and it is only a few points lower in attack power than Surf (in the main games where they came from). Anything is possible mah dude

Waterfall: 80
Bounce: 85
Surf: 90

So... yeah...

Oh wow, I did not remember Waterfall being that powerful. So I guess it is possible, but for any chance of meta-relevancy they'd also need to give it Hurricane.

I checked quickly with DPS/TDO, if Bounce was a copy of Counter, B/Hu Gary would rank slightly below SA Moltres as a flying attacker, so not bad at all.

It would be a pretty rad moveset : )

Yes, Niantic managed to make you feel cursed when getting a near perfect IV relevant pokemon. You cannot use them, because they will be outclassed by themselves. Same goes for legendaries. You better don't invest your stardust in more than one of each species or you are screwed. I recently got a 100% rhyhorn by trading. I don't intend on evolving it into rhyperior, will evolve first my 87% or so and wait for its community day.

It depends entirely on the Pokemon in question. Likely candidates so far amount to starters, 10k 3-stage hatches, and promotional Pokemon a la Pikachu (promoting Community Days, series mascot) and Eevee (promoting LGPE). Magikarp doesn't fit this profile and already has its shiny available, making it an unlikely bet. As far as moves go, barring the introduction of better moves or playing a different type profile Gyarados already has access to two of the best water moves in the game.

Examples of Pokemon to hold onto in case of Community Days would be starters, Bagon, and possibly Ralts.

This is why Pokemon that you've taken to level 40 should have their entire movesets (current, legacy, CD exclusive) TM-able.

I like Community Days as much as the next person but they ARE bullshit.

This is actually a pretty fair idea. As it stands there's little reason to actually max out all the way to 40 besides showboating, the cost/benefit ratio from 35 to 40 is stupidly offset. Depending one the Pokemon this could heavily justify that 88k dust and 118 candy. A prime example would be any 100% Mewtwo caught during this month since it can't get Shadow Ball.

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