Also the other thing I noticed if now oh can evolve the mom up to an hour after the CD times to still get the move (most likely and hopefully Meteor Mash)
I feel like his main use will be for Fairy Types, as fighting and fire cover ice and rock quite well
Steel-type moves aren't exactly the most meta relevant of the bunch, but depending on how good Meteor Mash is (it's highly likely that'll be it's CD move), Metagross could secure itself a place as a very strong generalist, given it's high attack, defense, and excellent typing.
That said, Metagross will likely also be the best steel type by a mile until we get Dialga and see what moves it has access to.
I actually got curious the other day and played around with some numbers on this. Even if Meteor Mash turns out to be a Last Resort clone it still puts Metagross ahead of Jirachi for steel type DPS. This puts Metagross ahead of everything else against Regirock and Regice.
Also, what's this about having an hour after the event to evolve stuff for the move?
I'm assuming the hour after wards is to give us time to look through our haul and pick the best ones. I know some people who evolved a good IV pokemon at the start of an event but their last catch or so a few second before the end of the event was a near perfect. Its probably to give us the best chances of getting the best iv ones powered up
Yes, that hour will be golden. Not only can you check IVs before deciding what to evolve, you can also TRADE, and if you get lucky, well, you're off to the races. A whole hour to take care of that stuff, and then get your special move (high probability of Meteor Mash). Plus, one should get enough Beldum candy to be able to evolve a few more later, and power them all up. Looking forward to this one.
Metagross has an absolutely gross statline and in particular a gross base attack stat. With a good charge move (Dynamic Punch level or better), it'd outclass fire against ice and fighting against rock. Source DPS/TDO.
And if the move is any good, Metagross will likely become the best potion-efficient counter to Blissey.
Could be very good. Up until this point steel types haven't had exactly the best moves, that doesnt mean they dont have match ups, they do, its just they have largely been outclassed because they lack DPS, but considering metagross has Tyrantiar levels of attack and a much better defensive typing, it could be come a generalist with high bulk like dragonite. Personally thats what im hoping for, if its DPS is good enough It could be a better ice counter than fighting types because of that resistance giving it more TDO. Not to mention with all those gardevoir and likely Togekiss in gen IV that gyms will have, theres a steel type that can trash them
I guess, but Kyurem is also weak to Rock (Tyranitar, Rampardos, Rhyperior), Fighting (Machamp, Hariyama, Conkeldurr, etc), Dragon (Dragonite, Salamence, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Garchomp), Fairy (Togekiss). So we will have loads of potential counters, Metagross will of course be a great counter, but I doubt it will beat out the dragons
But all take neutral damage or super effective damage, as I said. most dragons are double weak to its ice moves, Rayq, salamence, dragonite, Palkia, giratina garchomp are weak to dragon, rhyperior and Togekiss are weak to ice. Dialga, Tyranitar Machamp, haryama and conceldurr also take neutral damage which can add up (Also Kyurem learns Zen headbutt in main series so theres that possibility for fighting types), most supreme/best coutners tend to resist the best moves of the pokemon, and few resist the dragon ice combo, one of those is metagross
Sure, but in the current meta DPS is king of the castle, otherwise we’d all be using Hariyama over Machamp whenever we needed fighting types. It’ll definitely be strong, but others might/almost certainly will outdamage it.
If anything that’s a good thing, we’ll be able to use a variety of Pokémon to battle with instead of the same six. Weather will likely play a big role as well
Because Absol doesn’t have more DPS than Tyranitar. Versus Mewtwo, Absol deals 16.54 DPS and 3.71 TDO. Tyranitar deals 16.94 DPS and 8.14 TDO. Granted, .4 DPS difference is negligible but Absol is likely to be one-shot.
Gengar tops the DPS charts and is frequently used for Mewtwo short-man raids because of that.
Theres more dark weak pokemon than just mewtwo, also assuming perfect versions of said pokemon, especially for SC gengar which isnt something people have, yes perfect tyrantiar are hard to come by but its a lot easier and more realistic to get a perfect/near tyranitar than it is to get that of an SC gengar (plus SC Gengar's dps can really be shifted if its iv's arent to the bulk/break points)
But what you said exactly proves my point, the slight DPS difference whether above or bellow doesnt matter, when its close liek that, and even if theres more of a gap, TDO is more important (also psycho cut/psychic, absol does have higher DPS)
I was just using Gengar as an example of a high DPS Pokémon that isn’t bulky and is used frequently because of its damage. The main comparison was Tyranitar vs Absol, with Tyranitar having higher DPS and TDO. Against any psychic type Tyranitar is king. You could also compare Houndoom, Houndoom has decent attack and better moves but still doesn’t compete with Tyranitar’s DPS and TDO. People don’t use Tyranitar because it’s a tank, they use it because it has the most DPS *and* it’s bulky. The bulk is a bonus.
Interesting, i am not using any steel type up until now, i'll wait until there is more info on it especially the moveset
Living in South East Asia region, i am not thinking much about steel types because i can utilize weather boost advantage with other type
Unless the boss has double weakness like Rayquaza against Ice type..
As for psychic attacker, i already have a good psychic counter that easier to get than evolving Beldum to Metagross which is very rare here.
