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TM to SB Mewtwo for T3 raids?

I am a solo player and only rarely get an opportunity to do group raids (T4-5). So, my challenge in this game is soloing T3 raids.
I managed to get 1 mewtwo, and it has Confusion/Psychic. This has been very useful for Machamp raids, though I probably have enough espeon/Alakazam to cover this in any case.
My question is, with Shadowball going legacy, should I spend my last two charged TMs to try to get it?
A few considerations:
1) charge TMs are very scarce for me, and I do have other needs ( trying for a second bite/crunch tyranitar, a third hydropump gyarados, a third SC/SB Gengar). Is taking a ~55% shot at getting SB Mewtwo worth the opportunity cost?
2) I typically only power up pokemon as needed to counter a specific raid boss. Part of the reason I haven't tried to TM already is because I haven't had many situations where SB Mewtwo was critical for a particular T3 raid boss. A glaring exception is Alakazam, but he seems to hardly ever be in the rotation. Any other T3 raids for which SB mewtwo would be uniquely useful (difficult to replace with common pokemon)? Maybe its best to just keep him as C/P, since Machamp seems to always be around to beat on.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Asked by maharbal6 years 8 months ago
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It's a hard decision since you only have 2 TMs and might get stuck with a useless move. I can lay out your chances:
55.5% you get SB.
22.2% you end up with psychic-2 TMs.
11.1% you're stuck with FB.
11.1% You're stuck with HB.
In any case you end up without SB, you can TM later back to psychic when you get more TMs, and 55% is not bad. I would advise you to try for SB, it's very close to psychic even against Machamp and it's superior in any other case.

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Yes - CTM for Shadow Ball. It's a great move for Mewtwo, and well worth having regardless.

It also means that you will have a much higher ability to do small-group Mewtwo raids over the next month, if those opportunities present themselves. (like, say, you're in a different area for a time and come across a Mewtwo raid but only 2 other players are currently able to do the raid) I would imagine that Mewtwo will motivate players into doing raids more often than they currently are, so it's possible you might be able to do more T4-T5 raids than normal - and having Shadow Ball might make the difference between being able to do the raid with the 3 people who can do the raid and having to abandon the raid because you need 4+.

CTM's can technically be dropped from any raid, so you WILL get more in the future.

It's a risk, though - many of us have horror stories of using 4+ CTM's trying to get a specific move (it took me about 7 on a Machamp to get Dynamic Punch...), so you might end up using the two CTM's and ending up with Psychic anyway. Personally, I would take the risk - I HAVE taken that risk. I used my last CTM's to change 2 of my Mewtwo's from Focus Blast to Shadow Ball, and now I'm out of CTM's. But I can do 2+ Level 5 Raids per day if I really wanted to, so I will get those back pretty quick - I'm in a much different situation than you.

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The risk could be worth it, if you also think about the fact that Mewtwo could get a better Psychic move after he’s released. If you then need him to be double psychic then you can TM him back to Psychic or a possible new move. Or keep it Shadow Ball since it’s still a great move even neutral

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I would at least try it. Best case scenario you get Shadow Ball, worst case you get stuck with Hyper Beam which you can TM off later. Middle ground you get either Psychic or Focus Blast, both of which have their uses.

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As a solo player your Con/Psychic Mewtwo is pretty useful & I wouldn't risk changing it with just 2 CTM's. You may not even get Psychic back & be stuck with 2 moves not much good to you on tier 3's. CTM's for solo players ARE a rare commodity, players who do many tier 4's & 5's will be swimming in them. Most of my CTM's have come raiding Legendaries, had very few drops from soloable raids so I think it's bad advice for the op to use his up on Mewtwo. Yes Shadow Ball has its uses but soloing tier 3's is rarely one of them.

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Alakazam, Claydol, Gengar, A-Raichu are just the ones I remember. Psychic is only best for fighting types, and even there the difference with SB is small. SB can also be used as a generalist in many T3 raids if you lack 6 optimal counters.

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I would second this. I used 9 of my CTMs to get one SB mewtwo. if you get lucky then that's great, but its a pretty big risk. That or risk never having a legacy mewtwo. I guess you'll have to decide between the two. Personally I'd use tyranitar to attack into psychic types and not ghosts.

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You can always TM back to Psychic, but not Shadow Ball.

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Further, SB Mewtwo will be very useful against Mewtwo (for a month) and Deoxys (future EX raids). You can't get it after 1 PM PST on Thursday, unless they change the moves up again. But for now, it's out of the rotation.

Further, it's possible/likely that Mewtwo will replace SB and HB with another Psychic move that has a good chance of being better than Psychic. Future Sight, Psyshock, or Psystrike will all outperform Psychic, so losing it is no biggie, and, over the next month, if you get one of those rare opportunities to do a group Mewtwo raid, you can probably replace the Psychic Mewtwo with one comparably good or better, so even if you're 'stuck' with Hyper Beam or Focus Blast, you'll still have a good pokemon.

Finally, I'd try the first CTM soon, and then wait until tomorrow to do the second (as long as you beat the deadline, that is). Splitting them up over days has, in the past, gotten better results than using one after another until you get the one move you want. Could just be RNG variances, but could be a real thing, too.

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Thanks for the suggestions. I decided to try for shadow ball in the hopes that it would be helpful with the difficult alakazam solo and that it might help me get another mewtwo in the next few weeks. I also consider it likely that mewtwo will get a new psychic move, so even if i end up with HB or FB, it will at least be relatively easy to get psychic moves back in the future, and possibly a better move than psychic.
So here goes...first ctm—> Focus blast
I’m still in this, will try the second one tomorrow morning...

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2nd ctm, here goes
.... psychic!
Well, no luck, but at least it still has a useful move for me, and i wont be kicking myself in the future when i really wish i had a sb mewtwo.

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