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So what happens if Electivire gets Wild Charge?

Will it be causing any Kyogre or Suicuine duos? The damage difference is quite small and Raikou survives for so much longer. That means if have a team of 6, you would very quickly, which isn’t optimal.

Asked by DatLocalKatcher6 years 8 months ago
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Electivire will have significantly more DPS, and that is what matters more in raids, as well as it wont require rare candy, it isnt like houndoom and tyranitar where the DPS is similar (as in less than .5 )but one survives longer as both are nonlegendaries

I dont think either of those will be duo'able at least until Zekrom comes out, Suicune's got a lot of bulk, and Kyogre's well....Kyogre, its bulk and DPS

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Electivire would have higher DPS than Raikou, but I don't know if it would be "significantly" higher. The difference in attack stat between the two is 8 points, for what that's worth. I could be entirely wrong, but I don't see Electivire blowing Raikou out of the water.

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8 difference in base attack stat is not "significant". Electivire would have 3,4% more DPS than Raikou according to GP's DPS/TDO chart. In reality the difference in TTW will be less than that because Electivire is much less bulky (Raikou has 37% more TDO).

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by TyFox 6 years 8 months ago

Kyogre duos lmao

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Let's look at the numbers. Electivire has a base attack stat of 249, Raikou has 241. DPS is approximately proportional to Attack, so you would be looking at about a 3% increase in DPS (in reality, more complicated, but approximate). However, Raikou has a bulk coefficient (Defense * Stamina) of 37,800, while Electivire's is 25,950. This means that you'll die more often with a team of Electivire, lowering your time to win to something that is likely less than or equal to that of Raikou's. The real advantage of Electivire over Raikou will be increased availability of catch and candy, meaning that you can get near Raikou-level performance with less cost. Duos of Kyogre and Suicune will not become possible because of anything in Gen IV.

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Nowhere near causing duos of Kyogre or Suicune. You'd need to go up from Raikou's TTW by more than 30% for that and Electivire has 3% more base attack. With TS/WC the necessary base attack stat would be 310+, even Zekrom in gen 5 doesn't come close if it doesn't get a busted new moveset.

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depending on breakpoints, they could deal the same damage, or maybe just +1 depending on weather and friendship. No need to get over-super-hyped for just +8 attack aside from non-rare candy power-up

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