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Anyone noticing more TM's?

Ive been doing tier 5's regularly for a few weeks now, and it wasn't until 3 days ago that I noticed i'd been getting a lot more TM's, for 3 weeks I hadn't gotten a single one, then all the sudden I was getting 2 or three from each raid

Asked by MetagrossMaxis6 years 10 months ago
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T5's have the highest chance of paying out TMs. If you've been doing more of those recently that's likely why.

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Ive been doing tier 5's ever since kyogre's event started, the only thing thats changed is 2 more balls because theres less people raiding regice than kyogre, do two extra premier balls really make them much of an effect on rewards? Wow.

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That's what we've been telling you with the whole DPS vs TDO comments. Between the extra catch chances and extra raid rewards you really should be fighting for that extra ball or two. I don't know how up to date this is but this sheds some light on reward distribution:
https://thesilphroad.com/science/raid-reward-odds-april-2018/

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I know that DPS gives out more rewards, but its kinda hard to get any damage bonuses when theres 20 people raiding, and you knock a kyogre out in 30 seconds
Ive been building up my DPS pokemon, and by extension getting machamp, as the weather is 49% cloudy, 49% sunny, and 2% other, so machamp has been useful. its good for knocking them down, but the main reason is really the rewards.

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True. It's harder to break double digits for balls with groups of 15+, especially if you don't have gym control. In case you didn't see the article on it:

Personal damage balls:
+1 if you dealt 5% of the total damage
+2 if you dealt 10%
+3 if you dealt 20%

Team damage balls:
+1 if your team as a collective dealt 20%
+2 if your team dealt 30%(I think?)
+3 if your team dealt 50%

If you personally deal 20% of the damage that's 4 balls, regardless of if you're the only member of your team.

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YEah, that 20% damage thing, it was impossible with kyogre, thankfully because regice is far less desirable (as a pokemon for battles) so the less people there are, the better the rewards are, thats why im raiding them nonstop, it may not be that good, but its rewards are as good as anythings.

and somewhat invalidated my statement about machamp not being good for tier 5's, hehe...uh

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it was up until right now, the tier 5's were mostly flying or psychic, so...

in a way I am glad to have been wrong about that, but its like smack down tyranitar, its either amazing or useless when it comes to tier 5 raid bosses

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That's true for nearly everything though, it's either the best for a matchup or shouldn't be considered. For example, Raikou is the single best counter to Kyogre but shouldn't be within 20 feet of Groudon. Hence the advantage to having specialized teams vs generalists when strictly talking raiding.

Expect to keep Machamp around for a little while. PokeBattler gives it the lowest time to win against Regirock outside of Sunny and Rainy weather (still #2 in rain though!) as well as best in cloudy weather against Registeel (fiery bois Moltres and Entei beat it in every other weather but odds are you only have one of each powered up, if any. With Heatran coming in Gen 4 one could question the value of powering either of them up vs saving their resources, since Gen 4 /could/ be getting close).

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After seeing that zap cannon in regirock's set, im getting more Machamp. That's going to make kyogre, and more importantly gyrados a lot less reliable in those raids, I hope groudon's rerelease comes out before the release of Regirock, they really were a jerk when making that moveset (especially after that water festival)

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Gyarados yes, lower level ones in particular. Kyogre I wouldn't rule out yet. Zap Cannon doesn't get STAB and it's coming off of the weakest attack stat we've had for T5 raids so far. It may sting but Kyogre has enough natural bulk to shrug it off and (hopefully) fire back a Hydro Pump.

Let me put it another way using an example I've seen firsthand: If Tyranitar (level 30 min.) can survive a Focus Blast from Regice with double weakness, then Kyogre can survive a Zap Cannon with single weakness.

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True, but in weather boosted rain, it could hurt a lot, and dent kyogre's nirmally impeccable bulk a bit more, it may only be a problem in rain though.

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Maybe not. At Kyogre's last bulkpoint of level 38.5 (assuming perfect Def and HP IVs) Zap Cannon does 87 damage per hit - that's in the rain. At level 30 Zap Cannon does 93 damage. Mine at level 36 with a 13 attack IV has 149 HP. Given how long Zap Cannon's cast time is I could probably fire off two Hydro Pumps before going down. Both fast moves deal the same damage to Kyogre at all levels FYI so the bulkpoints for both are the same.

All and all Kyogre is the obvious rain lead. Even with rain powering up Zap Cannon it will power up all of Kyogre's moves too, making it a monster.

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"R"NG.

For a few weeks, I was getting 2-3 TM's per raid. I was at the point where I was considering deleting them because I simply didn't need them (particularly FTM's). Before that I went almost the entire time of Groudon and Rayquaza raids (20+ raids) without getting a single TM. Now I'm back to a more "normal" distribution, and get a TM every 3rd or 4th T5 raid.

It's all "R"NG. Or Niantic has an AI running things that has a toddlers sense of humour.

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I can't speak about T5s, but T3's have been getting the shaft on TM's lately

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I dont really go to their 3's much, mostly as the ones I can do arent useful (onyx, aerodactyl) then the ones that are useful, (machamp jolteon) I cant do, thats why I stck mostly to tier 5's, I wish they made the tier 3 rewards better

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The current T3 rotation is truly awful from a solo standpoint. Onix simply isn't worth the effort and Jolteon shouldn't be bothered with unless you have 3+ level 35+ Groudons in the sun.

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I can do 3/4...but onix takes 172 seconds in neutral weather for me and I usually lose 4 at the start and 6 at the end. Clear/Rainy, no problem at all.

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I dont get why they didnt bring Piloswine back, I mean it will actually be useful because Gen IV's right around the corner now that the regi's are out.

Maybe Gen IV's first raids will all be pokemon that got evolutions, which would be nice, but yeah, current tier 3's are trash from a soloable standpoint, either too hard or not useful (machamp's a bit of a swing, as its useless if you already have 12 of them)

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That is why i said about build your team to solo Machamp in another thread that went "hot" the other day
Machamp is been around longest, you can take your time learning and buliding your team and not worry about iit being replace.

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