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Fastest Exp Grinding Strat?

Im trying to get higher into the levels so I can start soloing t3's, i'm currently level 33.

I know some people use lucky eggs for mass evolving pokemon like weedle, and also doing multiple raids in one use of a lucky egg, but are there any other ones?

Asked by MetagrossMaxis6 years 10 months ago

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Your trainer level is already high enough for Machamp and Aerodactyl, maybe Onix if you have a couple WF/HP Kyogres. Remember that your trainer level doesn't mean shit if you don't have Pokemon powered up to it - a level 30 that's been carried and hasn't powered up anything is likely to only be as effective as someone in the mid-20's.

You pretty much answered your own question, dropping a lucky egg and trying to nail 3 T5 raids under its effects is the quickest way. Luckily you can now drop them in the raid lobby to buy a couple minutes squeezing raid #3 in. EDIT: You can also evolve things as you're walking/being driven from one raid to the next to squeeze a little more out.

This.

Add to this that you should be doing this, if possible, around the same time as getting your daily Streak. Particularly the 7 Day Streak. So drop a Lucky Egg before doing 2+ T5 Raids, spin the pokestop, catch the Raid Boss (if you don't, catch a Pokémon between raids), evolve a half dozen Pokémon between raids (if you happen to have new potential Dex Entries, wait till this time to do it).

The Mass-Evolution trick is really nice... but two T5 Raids will essentially give you more XP. It's essentially a Legacy Playstyle that isn't going to be all that useful going forward, except in Rural/Suburban environments.

Lucky egg mass-evo is nice if you don't feel like going out, but you miss out on all the other rewards raiding brings with it.

And likely some high-20s accounts with legendaries, good hatches/catches/trades are going to be better equipped unless you consider where your mon are.

If your goal is soloing T3, your level is already good for that, no need to wait for higher level
Time to power up pokemon that good for T3 boss, using basic Weakness- Resistance-Base stats
Try to setup for machamp first, as it is the staple raid boss up until now, so you can take time and not to worry about T3 get change again.
It is also good to get the feel on soloing T3 example how and when to dodge, when to tank it, play more efficient,etc
After that you can try another current T3 boss starting from the easy one to the hardest.

For Machamp, you dont even need a legendaries to raid, not even max out. Good old Alakazam, Espeon is good enough, just make sure it has atleast a good moveset for it, best moveset if you can afford the TM
No need to go very detail on it, like using battle calculator or simulator, you can just power it up until it need 6000 stardust and try it.
Power it up more accordingly if you feel it need more punch to 7000,8000 etc
Wanna try some alternative counter ? After you win with your Zam and Espeon, you can include along with your main attacker such counter as Exeggutor Psychic, Dragonite Huricane, Gardevoir. Even the like of Slowbro/King, Dodrio,Crobat,Xatu,Gengar (in some situation),etc can be use
Or if you just want to win, bring your Mewtwo if you have it, power it up till it need 6000 stardust first, and put it in first slot

Soloing T3 is a good practice for raid, if you get the hang of it, doing T5 with a group of trainer gonna be easy, you probably end up to be stronger than some of level 40 trainers..

I dont have any espeon or alakazam (as aside from machamp raids, they have zero use), and already have a perfect machamp, so I dont need that for raids, that an how I have no psychic or flying types (my dragonite are all dragon sets, and psychic types are...no where around me, dont have a lugia or rayquaza) I have a few pidgeot, but the dust is better spent elsewhere.

im going out for more useful pokemon, machamp has uses and I dont deny them, but I already have strong ones of that species, and am more concerned with experience (and to an extent the raid rewards) rather than a pokemon that isnt a good Tier 5 counter (as those give out the best rewards, they are the main deciding factor in my personal ranking of pokemon, as gyms dont require specific pokemon to take them down with few people) when the regi's are done,

Espeons are very easy to get. Get a boosted eevee, walk it, and bam. I’m sure you have an abra you can turn into an alazalam. Machamp is one of the most useful moms. Having one perfect maxed out is not enough. With the Regis, which we will have for a few months, build a team up. I only use my maxed Machamps against Regice so I don’t have to pour rare candy into moltres. Machamp is the only tier 3 raid I ever use a pass on. And with my team, I can easily duo a ttar. Which is extremely useful. If you aren’t soloing Machamps, you are doing it wrong.

Don't use words like "most useful" to him about Machamp. It's like his trigger word, even if it is true.

I do not deny its use, but people deny its problems.

it is a beast at destroying blissey and other annoying gym pokemon, but my concern is raids, which machamp doesnt match up well against when it comes to, and this is the key point, useful legendary raids. it matches agaisnt all of the current tier 4's, that is fantastic as they are all great pokemon for battles, but it doesn't match well agaisnt the legendaries, and that is my point to why I do not think of it as highly as others, it is strong, but against legendaries, there are better alternatives, and even against its gym matchups, it consumes /large/ numbers of potions

Again, it isnt bad, it is a very strong pokemon, but against legendaries, like rayquaza and lugia, it doesnt have a chance.

uh....what am I looking at?

Those are the top DPS pokemon.

I know about the eevee trick, but theres more valuable buddies, ie dragonite/tyranitar, they have more useage than espeon, who is limited to only machamp (and to an extent, fighting type) raids (as there are no fighting or poison legendaries, this will likely persist through the rest of the series)

I already have tones of high level, high IV tyranitar, so I dont see much other raid usage for machamp raid wise, (regi's are just dex filler) until dialga comes out, and gen V
's kyurem (by which we'll all have out event metagross and raid dialga)

It's 10km to make an Espeon. In 40km you will either get 8 candy for Dratini/Larvitar or most of a functional Machamp team. I'd say the Machamp team is a fair bit more impactful since you currently can't solo the raid.

And then what happens when Giratina or lugia comes and you've been so busy walking machamp to power up the pokemon that can take them on?

Have you checked powerup costs recently? You're not losing the ability to take your mon from 20 to 30, you're losing the ability to take it from 29 to 30. Walking a few Espeons has minimal impact on your performance against future legendaries.

>no fighting or poison legendaries

Cobalion, Terrakion, and Virizion say hi. Also Nihilego if you want to count ultra beasts.

As much as we harp on you about it you may as well suck it up if soloing T3's is really your endgame. Of the *current T3's it's only 1 of 2 that's easy to solo and they /just/ rotated them around, so barring another event they'll likely be around until Regice goes away. Machamp in particular has been the longest running raid boss in general, so the consistency alone is worth investing for in the event they shuffle T3's again as he'll likely stay.

You keep mentioning future legendary raids. Gen 4 introduces the Lake Trio, Giratina and Cresselia. Know who can mop the floor with them? Dual dark Tyranitar. Know who mops the floor with him? Machamp. I admit dragons will be as effective against Giratina but my point still stands with the other 4. Not to mention Machamp will see use against Dialga and Heatran, alongside Groudon for those two.

For the record, how many Counter/Dynamic Punch Machamp do you have? If you have like 6 or something that are raid quality we can quit harping on you about them, though the raids are a consistent source of candy for them if you're lacking.

Thatcomment about the tyranitar is soemthign I have said for a long time, machamp is only as highly rated as it is because it is good at getting the pokemon that are /ACTUALLY/ the ones you want for raids, so its a good raid attacker indirectly, which is why I feel it doesnt deserve its rating, it is strong, but agaisnt the top tier legends, yeah it does jack squat, its just a stepping stone to the actually useful pokemon

I have 8, all above 96 iv, and 500 candy after evolving

while it will match dialga well, theres a pokemon called Groudon that can do it better

Let me ask you this. What pokemon do YOU consider useful?

One big thing I don't think you consider is rare candy. If rare candy isn't an issue, just max out 6 Mewtwo.

I do consider rare candy, I just dont have legendaries, I started 5 months ago, I only just got a kyogre, and theres no EX possible gyms near me, and being a newer player, dont have "all the pokemon maxed out" so that limites my options.
non legendaries:
Tyranitar (dark), gyrados, dragonite, salamence, golem, venasaur, Charizard (blastburn) scizor., and machamp (in /specific/ instances, ie only on tyranitar and absol)

(the only other pokemon above 2500 cp I have, ie the range of viable raid pokemon, these arent the good ones) arcanine, blaziken, omastar vaporeon, rhydon, aggron

Okay, this is helpful. First off, you need to realize things take time because of the need for stardust. Since you are newer, you may not be aware how the old gym system worked. It was all about good defenders and high placement. With the prestige system, people were used to using attacker half the cp of the defenders. What did this result in? All your resources going to defensive pokemon. With the gym change, this was reversed. 90% of all the resources I acquired the first year plus of the game became totally worthless. All my maxed out defensive pokemon. I had to start over and start building attackers. My point is you will always have pokemon and resources that will become obsolete. For that reason, I do not build "armies." I don't max out 6 of any single pokemon. That being said, I'm not afraid to max out any usable pokemon once. Doing this gives me a vast amount of usable pokemon even if they aren't the best option. Like you, I dont have many of the legendaries, so I use the next best options. I will show you my teams and the reasons behind them.

The first team DPS team that I use to sweep gyms. They combine bulk and power and can cover anything.

My fighting team. Relevant in the meta and against the current legendary.

but aside from the regi's (the tier 5's equivelient of dex filler) what other legendaries are they going against?

that is something people dont consider

You act like there is some huge investment there. I have only ever powered up 2 fighting types, my legacy Machamp, and my 100% Machamp. Took both of them to 40. All my other fighting types are nothing but simple evolutions.

And what do you want me to do, make an Omastar team?

Clearly he does. Good luck finding 6 people to give you legacy Omastars.

And why are legendaries the be-all, end-all? Ever heard of a gym? Know what wrecks gyms? Go on. I'll wait.

Wheres the fairy coverage, because thats a glaring hole

Fairies aren't even close to relevant outside the occasional Gardevoir.

Fairy isn't well enough represented to have a dedicated spot on my team. If I need some fairy coverage, my Muks do it.

My fire team. To be used against the current T5 legendary. As you can see, no legendaries there, but my old maxed Flareon and Arcanine that are still very useful.

My Mewtwo team

And a dragon team. I use this team to quickly jump back into raids.

I only mentioned Tyranitar and left out its use in gyms since gymming wasn't on topic. Unless literally the entire gym is filled with things that resist it it's a go-to for sweeping. For demotivated gyms resistance is a non-issue.

Also, how is a gateway Pokemon not a good investment? If you told me that in order to get one of the best Pokemon in the game that I needed 6 of something else to get it you bet your ass I'd get and max out those other 6.

Also Groudon requires rare candy, something that seems to be an issue for you to get large amounts of. You keep forgetting that ease of access weighs heavily when comparing legends to non.

1. Machamp will out dps groudon, unless groudon get precipice blades.
2. Do you think you will have 6 powered up groudon, considering the rare candy cost?
One thing to consider is weather, in cloudy weather machamp can be used as a generalist in neutral match-up out dpsing rayquaza and mewtwo.

yes, i think i will have that,

it may out DPS grodon, but agaisnt dialga, DPS isnt the problem, its surviving, its TDO will be pitifully small compared to groudon

DPS is everything in group raids you dunce. TDO matters when you need an anchor for a solo to keep from whiting out before the timer expires. When everyone is going for DPS you're not going to want to be left behind.

Also wait, you honestly think you'll have 6 maxed Groudon before Dialga comes out? If you're being facetious I genuinely can't tell.

You seem a little confused. You say you want to solo T3 raids, so someone tells you the pokemon to solo Machamp. You then tell them those pokemon have no use outside of that T3 raid and that raid is pointless because you already have a Machamp. So what, you want to do Onix raids because of his usefulness?

It's really simple...either create a team specifically for each type of raid boss, or get 6 high DPS generalists, such as Machamp, Dragonite, or TTar, unless you have rare candies for the legendaries.

what I mean is it doesnt seem wise, at all, to spend stardust and in the case of espeon, the distance as a buddy, (ie, limited, shared resources) on pokemon that will not be useless outside of that raid, that is what I am saying.

I mean whats better, spending 100k stardust on espeon and alakazam that arent useful outside of machamp, or spending that much dust on dragonite, tyranitar, kyogre or groudon, pokemon useful in many more situations? that is what my point is about them having no use outside of machamp, powering them up takes recourses (stardust or buddy candy for tyranitar/dragonite/etc) away from other more useful pokemon

The cool thing about pokemon is the different typing. It makes it so that some types are better against different types than others. It seems that you don't understand this, and what you want is the best pokemon in EVERY matchup. That simply doesn't exist. There isn't a pokemon that hits everyone SE while being hit NVE. That pokemon isn't real. The least resisted move is probably Dragon...unfortunately dragon is SE against dragon.

You either need to construct a generalist team or specialty teams. Max out 6 Kyroge, or 6 Groudons, or 6 Mewtwos. If you need a psychic pokemon and don't have 6 Mewtwo, pick the NEXT BEST psychic pokemon. If you don't have 6 Kyroge, get the NEXT BEST water pokemon. The next best Psychic pokemon after Mewtwo, in terms of DPS, is Alakazam and Espeon. If it isn't worth it to you to have psychic pokemon, just use 6 maxed out Rays.

No, I understand that theres type match ups, that is soemthign a lot of machamp fanboys dont get where im from, as in I know of people //regularly// using it against gengar raids. I under stand how the type chart works, hence why I say machamp doesnt match up against the top tier legendaries (a true statement)

I understand that there is no pokemon good in /every/ instance, hence why I do not think highly of machamp, its useage is very narrow, (being useful as a match up against gym defenders who arent always there).

i am constructing generalist teams, and machamp doesnt fit on a generalist team, fighting matches against a lot (dark, rock, steel, ice, normal), but it also looses to a lot (bug, fairy, flying, ghost, poison, psychic, that's 1/3rd of all types) not to mention in raids its bulk is...not good, it hits hard, but also gets hit hard

Dumbasses using Machamp in Gengar raids doesn't make Machamp less useful, it just lets you know they're a bunch of dumbasses.

With raiding being a thing, the focus shifted away from generalists and closer toward specialists. Machamp is a specialist super effective against 5 types. It puts out enough DPS to warrant use despite its defenses. You wanna talk something with bulk too poor for regular use look at Breloom.

Bug, fairy, and poison are not well represented. I literally only swap out for a good psychic (it hits Metagross for neutral once maths are done) or Gengar. And since Gengar is squishy as can be, that's a quick swap back in usually.

And there's no way to futureproof. So use the 6 best you have now. Or 12 best. I like back ups.

You don't need to spend stardust on Espeon and Alakazam. Eevee and Abra can be caught weatherboosted, in fact they are both pretty common during the right weather. They don't even need to be above level 30 to be honest.

that is all depended upon having that weather, with doesnt always happen, when it doe shapen they are strong, but when it doesnt, they are not found

Newsflash but that's how this game is. You have very limited control over what is available for you to catch and have to make do with what you find.
Keep your eyes open and you will stumble upon cp750+ eevees and cp900+ abras eventually.

When it is windy in my normal grass/suburban trash biome I really don't see many abras in windy weather. I was in some sort of plains/college town this weekend and often had hours of wind pickup...saw abras everywhere. Missed a 1010cp! But then I caught a 964 which turned into a 2515 pc/shB

I must have a different grass/suburban trash biome because I see an Abra every 20 meters when it's windy. I wonder what biome trait triggers the Abras.