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Perfect Machop, Evolve or Save?

I just hatched a perfect IV machop, and im wondering whether or not to evolve it or save it incase theres any kind of machamp event.

Asked by MetagrossMaxis7 years ago
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There's some insane irony going on here.

In any event I'd evolve it. Machamp already learns the strongest fighting attacks in game. It's incredibly unlikely Machop will get a CD type event.

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I mean it's no Aggron...but I guess it's worth evolving...

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It was a matter of example previously!

maybe now that I actually have a decent machamp, I can see if it actually *IS* worth all the hype

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YEs, it was purely demonstrative of machamp not being the 'punch everything and win' using aggron as an example against an aerodactyl raid boss showing even machamp is outclassed in certain instances by 'inferior' pokemon

I have had terribly experience with machamp being absolutely useless in raids (died almost instantly to a tyranitar raid and my rhydon and aggron has to pick up for it), while other pokemon that people rate ALOT lower were doing much better than is, my experiences differed heavily to people's descriptions of machamp's reformance

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by hkn 7 years ago

Unless you already have a full Machamp team, go ahead and evolve it! If you have the stardust, max it out. It is literally impossible to hatch or catch a better Machop.

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And its probably THE most relevant attacker in the game atm. Sure a community day "may" happen and 'champ "may" get a slightly better moveset but it doesn't make counter dynamic punch any worse than it currently is. Unless you already have 6+ 100% champs boosted and ready to go, I say evolve it now

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This is actually the only machamp above 85% iv's, but the problem is this: stardust. I'll power up and evolve it when I can, thankfully my dislike of machamp came in handy as I never powered any up, and have like 800+ candy from the kanto event, haha...ugh...why does irony always bite me in the butt like this...

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If stardust is a problem, you can try raiding cloudy boosted Machamps to catch at level 25 for a little bit of savings, or just look for high CP Machops in cloudy weather.

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I dont raid machamp, I personally do not feel it is worth it just for stardust and the slim possibility of a good machamp when other raids give pokemon that can be used for other things or better raid rewards

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Machop is not a 10km hatch, so no reason to think CD event. We also had a Machop event just a few weeks ago.

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Neither is charmander, Bulbasaur, or Squirtle. They are all starters, just like Pikachu. Which is why it was on CD.

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The current pattern for CD has been alternating between starter pokemon and 3-stage evolutionary families in 10km eggs. The pattern could change, but currently Machop is an unlikely CD candidate.

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I think we can all agree Pikachu was a field test and we shouldn't account for it from now on

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Pikachu was a starter, and probably the most well known one.

It makes perfect sense in the pattern they use, and perfect sense to be first.

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The only reason I think there COULD be a machop CD at some point is because they did not release the shiny version during the Battle Event.

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There could be a community day staring machop that can be evolved to Machamp with Superpower 2 bar move for 110 dmg each or Focus Punch 1 bar move for 150 dmg.

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That is actually a very good question. Best one I've seen so far in Quality Assurance section lately.

My answer is: if you don't already have a team of 12 Machamp, do it (12 Machamp are what it takes to short-man Dialga without max reviving). Otherwise, you may consider waiting.

Machop, not being a starter or a 10k egg Pokemon, does not follow the Community Day Pokemon pattern (so far). That said, let's assume it did get its CD and an exclusive move (for Machamp). Machamp already learns the best fast move Counter and the top 10 charge move Dynamic Punch, both being the best Fighting moves. Therefore, for a CD Machamp to be better, it has to learn a new Fighting move that is not in the game yet. Those include:

1. Bulk Up (PP 20, non-damage-dealing)
2. Focus Punch (PP 20, Pow 150, Acc 100%)
3. Power-Up Punch (PP 20, Pow 40, Acc 100%)
4. Quick Guard (PP 15, non-damage-dealing)
5. Revenge (PP 10, Pow 60, Acc 100%)
6. Rolling Kick (PP 15, Pow 60, Acc 85%)
7. Seismic Toss (PP 20, Pow ?, Acc 100%)
8. Superpower (PP 5, Pow 120, Acc 100%)
9. Vacuum Wave (PP 30, Pow 40, Acc 100%)
10. Vital Throw (PP 10, Pow 70, Acc ?)
11. Wake-Up Slap (PP 10, Pow 70, Acc 100%)

Now, that's a lot of them. But let's focus on the potential charge moves only because Counter is already the best fast move. If anything, Dynamic Blast, I mean Focus Punch, is where my money is. It looks OP on paper but it is held by its effect in the main series. This sort of move is favored by Niantic (such as Overheat, Dynamic Punch, Outrage, all with crippling effect in the main series). Superpower is also not bad as well.

With all said, I believe that even any of the above moves is ever to be implemented in PoGo, there's a high likelihood that it is for other later Fighting-type Pokemon who are to take Machamp's crown (like any other typical MMO, new and better characters being released in the future). So what's better than a usable Machamp NOW?

In conclusion, it is advisable to evolve it now, rather than waiting for the uncertain future. Because:
A. Machop is not likely to get CD;
B. Machamp is not likely to get a better Fighting-type move;
C. By the time it does, there will be better Fighting-types.

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ok. makes sense, its just the whole larvitar CD got me paranoi because I evolved my best trapinch and have a feeling its going to ne a hoenn CD, and now im worried about wasting a good IV pokemon, so this does put me at ease.

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Keep in mind too that even if Machop DOES get a Community day with an exclusive move that's somehow better than Counter or Dynamic Punch it doesn't diminish how effective those moves are. Machamp does what it does so well in no small part due to its moves, and now you've been presented with an opportunity to see it firsthand.

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Great write-up, a thumbs up for what it counts.
I have a perfect wild (non-scanner) machop too, so am looking for a CD reason not to evolve it. Think I will now.

The other thing they might do on a community day is give Machamp an off type move, like they did for Ampharos. This would be just as meaningless.

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In my case, yes

I am duoing Tyranitar raid for additional candy for Larvitar CD, and that perfect machop will be a good replacement for my worst Machamp in my all 6 Machamp team with IV 80 and 14 atk, C/CC level 35 weather boosted from machop
I will evolve, power it up atleast to level 35 ( SD 8000) and C/DP moveset...

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If you can max it in one shot do it. If you cant save it

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Just send it to the professor, Machamp will be useless once gen4 drops 👌😂

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that is a statement I still agree with, togekiss will likely replace/be placed along side blissey due to having a double resistance and being able to give STAB super effective moves. it will not male machamp completely useless, just make it more difficult to use to take down gyms in one go

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Same as gardevoir. It doesn't make machamp useless, you just need one more Pokemon in your gym party besides machamp.

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