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Gardevoir vs Lugia

So I've built my counter team for Lugia based off Pokebattler with and without my Pokebox and both say Gardevoir with Confusion/Shadow Ball is a great choice...

Just done a Lugia with Dragon Tail/Hydro Pump and it was woeful... "not effective" on screen for both my Gardevoirs!

Any ideas what I'm missing here?

Asked by Sully09887 years 1 month ago

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Confusion is not effective

It's the simple fact that you're using Psychic moves (Confusion) against a Psychic Pokemon (Lugia) which is going to be resisted. It's still going to do a fair amount of damage, given Confusion is a very strong attack and Shadow Ball's output is also good, but there's going to be better options.

G needs Charge beam + shadow ball.

Avoid confusion.

Also, G is not that optimal of a pokemon for Lugia from the start imo.

Yeah course I'm aware its not the best but I have two that are really good IV and CP.

I just want to take Pokebattler for gospel and it seems to be incorrect, it literally puts Garde Confusion/Shadow Ball above my maxed out Golems for that moveset Lugia raid.

Thats because golem sucks against HP. It will most likely faint before executing 1 Stone Edge.

Hm, I do not follow. Your point is that Garde C/SB outperforms maxed out Golems against Lugia?

How does that contradict that G is not that great?

Pokebattler puts my Garde before all of my maxed out golems and most Gengars...why and how?

1. Neither Garde nor Golem is that great against Lugia.
2. Gengar is a class cannon requiring a high level in order to survive long enough to fire a shadow ball that increases its DPS drastically.

In most cases you can put in 1-2 glass cannons up front (jolteon or gengar).

remaining 4-5 slots can be filled with raikou mewtwo, zapdos, tyranitar that all out lives and out DPS Garde. In many cases dragonite also outperforms Garde.

What ranking are you using? When checking perfect counters, both Gengar and Golem get higher overall and DPS ranking than Gardevoir, with Gardevoir having CB/SB as preferred moveset (9% better than C/SB).
Sounds like it's one of those cases where the averaging of simulations works in a strange unintended way and you get skewed results. Always worth checking the overall counters ranking in addition to your own pokebox.

I tried out my best Gardevoir against Lugia due to the same advice. Man could she tank the Lugia hits, but I didn't have the right moveset : CB/SB.

I have one other Garde with that moveset, but not boosted up. I bet it could work, but I've been investing in other counters that will be both useful here and against the Legendary Birds.