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Lucario is not a threat to Machamp?

I look in the fighting type session of the game press best mon by type page.
https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/best-attackers-type

And I cannot find lucario being mention as a threat to Machamp

Lucario has steel and fighting type with high att, it does not take any SE damage from all the move-set of bilssey ,

why there is no mention of it but only gallade instead for gen4?

Asked by gamekong7 years 1 month ago
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Good point. I think it might be an oversight.

If it's not an oversight, it may be because Lucario has a lower attack stat than Machamp, so Machamp will still have higher attacking power / DPS in raids. However, yes, Lucario's steel typing will allow it to resist normal moves and take only neutral damage from psychic moves. This'll make it a better attacker into gyms than Machamp and a bulkier attacker into normal-type raids.

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Based on it's predicted stats (140 STA, 236 ATK, 144 DEF), it's probably going to fall into the same trappings as Breloom - slightly better attack but far less bulk that the steel typing may not make up for. It might have a couple of niche uses, but Machamp will probably reign supreme.

Gallade on the other hand has the slightly better attack (237) coupled with comparable bulk - fairly poor stamina (136), but high defense (220).

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So only 18 defense stat lower and 2 attack higher in trading
from mostly SE + 1 natural damage to
mostly natural ( x0.99 for exact) + 1 NVE damage
Is not enough for to be superior?
I guess it is another blaziken then....

But I do think that taking natural damage from ZH is a huge difference tho._.
And double resisting the type that the fighting type normally resist.....

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Lucarios steel typing can be a decent advantage especially when going vs dazzling gleams and zen headbutts. Otherwise in stats its gonna fall behind Machamp especially in bulk.
Personally I am looking forward to Gallade, its psychic typing can be useful (maybe), and having similar stats to Machamp.

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Simple answer probably: Lucario can not learn Dynamic Punch. Without a move rebalance, its DPS will fall way behind Machamp's and Hariyama's, so even if it ends up being a bit tankier against normal-types, people will prefer their already developed Machamp armies that do the job faster.
As mentioned, it's glassy by base stats so even the typing may not save it there. But I think it's still a mon worth keeping an eye on.

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i hope they add in gen4 update moves like Aura Sphere with 3 bars and 60 damage so Lucario could be more competitive

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