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Golem - the answer to all your Rayquaza prayers?

A decent team of R/SE Golem should be able to absorb anything Rayquaza has.
Articuno is double weakness against Ancient Power, not to mention glass cannon.
Honorable mention: Gyarados - might last 3 Ancient Power at the most, but it should get you some damage points with DT/O.

Asked by Thaiguy907 years 3 months ago
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by pipjay 7 years 3 months ago

Yep. Probably one of the sturdier choices. I only had three Golems powered up the last time I needed them, and I've caught several level 30-35 weather boosted Geodudes since then. Going to be fun. I'll probably lead off with some ice types, then throw some rocks at it.

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Golem will be a solid choice for sure

Don't agree about Articuno though. While it's true that it'll get destroyed by Ancient Power, double super-effective Ice damage is going to be too good to ignore, especially against the other two movesets. Hardly a glass cannon with it's high defense coupled with respectable stamina.

If he's released in time, then Aggron should also be a great option. Resistant to all of Ray's attacks, and can learn Dragon Tail and Stone Egde. Gardevoir should also be a strong choice because of the immunity to Dragon.

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by Sebhes 7 years 3 months ago

Glad I caught 2 level 35 geodude with 80% IV today :D

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Golem is useable if you want TDO against AP movesets, but that's it. It loses to ice and Dragonite in DPS against all movesets and also loses in TDO to a bunch of mons against non-AP movesets.

Gyarados is just a worse Dragonite. Not worth using unless you don't have enough ice mons, Gardevoirs, Dragonites or Golems to fill the team.

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Is Dragonite only going to perform in Aerial Ace though? Stab outrage from Rayquaza sounds painful- Zapdos can tank a blizzard from Kyogre only when maxed out, and I think a stab outrage from Rayquaza is stronger

AP should be OK for dragonite I guess

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Outrage will OHKO any Dragonite so not advisable to use there. Ice mons will however outperform Golem significantly. Against AA both ice mons and Dragonite are much better than Golem.

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Apparently according to pokebattler, it wants me to go in with 5 Dragonite (3 at 40, 2 at 35.5) and an Articuno (lvl 30, but not willing to spend rare candy on it). After that there's a Walrein, some Golem, my lvl 40 Raikou, and another Dragonite (not in that specific order) completing the top 12.

It's gonna save me some dust on ice types, as I checked what it would do if I boosted the Walrein and Articuno to 40, but it would not gain me enough for the dust investment.

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Yes, pretty sure it's better than most ice types and dragon types in some cases, like Ancient Power (Cannot use Ice Types or Dragonite/Salamence) or Outrage (Cannot use Dragon Types).

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At level 30 against DT/AP, Jynx, Piloswine, Lapras, Articuno, Dragonite and Walrein all rank higher than Golem due to having so much better DPS. Lapras in particular is almost strictly better than Golem, 1% less power, 70 seconds less time to win, but even all the others have 14% or more power, meaning you don't need Golem's better TDO if you're raiding with 7 or more people. Golem may be preferable if you're going with 5 players, but if the 4 others use Jynxes and rejoin once you'll be the only one getting only 2 damage balls.

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Yes, but consider the fact if it has ancient power all of your jynxes and most of the pokemon you listed above are likely to be killed quickly.

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