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Slaking seems to be pretty unviable in attacking

I've tried it before and a hit from Slaking's Hyper Beam is only enough to remove 50% from a Gyarados or Blastoise's HP bar, or cripple very weak Dragonites. It is unable to kill the pokemon instantly which is what i expected. The only reason that i used it for attacking is for the lulz or when i see really weak pokemon in a gym.

Seems like it's only purpose is to scare newbs from attacking gyms or fix kill a machamp from a player who does not know how to dodge. (It's attacks do huge amounts of damage even when dodged however, especially hyper beam.)

Asked by Mr-ex7777 years 2 months ago
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Yes, you are correct. Crappy attacker.

As a defender, it had two advantages.

First, with it's huge bulk, it's slower to kill than most mons.

Second, with it's huge CP, it'll keep that tower tall longer than any other mon in the game, so if folks are scanning for short towers to attack, you won't be one.

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Slightly better defensive stats than vaporeon but sharing the same fighting weakness as blissey/chansey/snorlax i’d Say it’s defensive role is questionable. I’ve never felt slaking Beeing a timing out issue. Even preferring gyms with slaking. a vaporeon equals one slot for grass/electric attacker.

Just my thoughts though.

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Someone on reddit did an in-depth analysis of this and Slaking is the 4th slowest defender to kill with its optimal counter, making it a pretty good defender in all honesty.

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I'm not doubting your reference, but in my experience, Slaking is incredibly quick to defeat with Machamp. If it's got a one-bar move, it's often out of the way before it can even fire it. I salivate every time I see one because I know it's going quick.

ETA: Upon reread, you did say "optimal counter," which I missed the first time. Those are a bit slower, but my salivating stands. :)

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Optimal counter is the fastest counter, being Machamp for Slaking. At same levels, it takes more than 20 seconds, which ranks at #4, just a bit better than Steelix.
One-bar Slaking is a joke, I agree. Really needs to have PR to be any threat to the attacker.

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True, I realize not everyone has a L40 Machamp, so my experience may not be representative. In addition, they are an easy big source of BXP for gym badges. Another point in their favor!

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More or less all gen 3 pokemons are crap novelties outperformed by gen 1+2.

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Just like i said, they were ruined by joke movesets; Salamence with Hydro Pump, Milotic learning Hyper Beam and not another water move like Hydro Pump or Metagross not learning meteor mash/Blaziken not getting Hi Jump Kick is a joke. False diversity exchanged with pure weakness. And please don't remind me about Rayquaza's moveset.

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By your logic, Mewtwo sucks because it has Hyper Beam.

1 bad move doesn't ruin the other 1 (or 2) good moves. TMs exist.

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But the problem is some of these gen iii pokemon has at least 2 ruining moves, like say Sceptile and Salamence while their movepool provides many unused moves that could be better than those moves if they actually implemented them.

Dragonite has 2 usable movepools excluding legacy, Tyranitar has again 2 usable movepools (It has 2 viable defensive combinations but Tyranitar itself is Not viable for defense anyway) but these gen iii guys are basically learning so much "diverse" moves that only like 1 of them can actually do something and it's usually not the options to make the pokemon "diverse".

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I like vileplume and want it to have great moves but it doesn’t. I want my Gengar to have more bulk but it doesn’t.

Gen 3 is crap from start so Why bother with the movepool ?

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It's the movepool that makes the seemingly viable pool of pokemon inferior. And i'm only counting Sceptile, Blaziken, Milotic, Walrein, Absol, Wailord, Salamence, Metagross, Regice, Regirock and Rayquaza. Rest for me don't have much problems (Hariyama, Kyogre etc.) or are too weak to rate (Swampert, Altaria, Flygon etc).

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Sceptile - Top 2 grass pokemon in the game, has amazing moveset.
Blaziken - Made mediocre by moveset.
Milotic - Doesn't have the stats to be a good attacker. Has multiple movesets that are great for defense.
Walrein - Has good attacking moveset.
Absol - Has good attacking moveset but stats are so-so.
Salamence - Has good attacking moveset, too bad it's not great.
Metagross - Is the best steel type by a wide margin even with the mediocre moveset.
Regice - Doesn't have the stats to be good, has a good moveset.
Regirock - Doesn't have the stats to be good, has a good moveset.
Rayquaza - Has amazing moveset for one type and is top of type attacker even with the other not-so-good moveset.

Out of 11 pokemon you mentioned, only one can be argued to be ruined by its movepool.

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If Niantic unnerfs his stats and gives him decent energy generation, he might be worth something. Until then, he's a Dex filler.

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It actually wouldn't, I checked on pokebattler a while back. You can test moves that the pokemon doesn't currently have by replacing the move name in the url of the simulation.
The result was that BS Slaking isn't even close to KO'ing a Machamp that doesn't dodge. PR is way better for defense.

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Certainly not worth stardust for a defender that's not better than 50% of the dedicated defenders I already have. I'm just waiting for a L35 Slakoth so I can evolve and call it a day.

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He's one of the best defenders for spots 4-6 in the game. It's not much, but it's something.

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