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What Tier 4 raids can be done with 2 mid 30 level players?

Are Tier 4 raids with 2 players even possible?

Asked by blazooier7 years 6 months ago

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Tyranitar and Charizard should be doable. The first one has been done but there probably isn't enough interest for the second one for an attempt. Given Moltres has been done with 2 people and Charizard has lower stats all around with a similar (or easier) scaling, it should be possible by extension.

EDIT: Sorry Charizard probably can't be done, I was using Moltres as a reference but forgot about the 2 minutes less on a non-legendary raid.

However, no Tier 4 raids can be done with 2 Mid level 30 players as far as I know. For Tyranitar, needs at least a Level 35 with Maxed machamps with 15 Attack to hit the breakpoint at Level 36.5, and no Level 35 has that kind of resources, so realistically we are talking about Level 37+ here.

Had a level 37, 33, and 35 yesterday try to do a Charizard. only difference is you have 3 less mins than you do with Charizard. Duo Moltres most likely used all of the time. We couldn't do the Charizard with the three. My team was 2 level 30 Golems a level 32 Ttar and 3 level 28 Ttars. All were Bite/ Stone Edge. The Average mid level 30 player would probably still need a total of 4 players to do it.

Gosh how did I miss that! Yes you are right! There's 2 less minutes for Charizard.

I suspect 3 maxed Golem players can still do it, but probably not 2 as you said.

Less time for Charizard but also Charizard is a tier 4 boss not tier 5, so Charizard's HP is also smaller than Moltres.

In fact, if we do the math :

Time: Charizard 180s / Moltres 300s = 60%
Raid boss HP: Charizard 7500 / Moltres 12500 = 60%

So it's completely scalable. Charizard is possible with 2 players using maxed Golem (Charizard has lower attack and defense than Moltres as well).

Based on simulation, anything in tier 4 with DOUBLE weakness can be duo'd - so Tyranitar, Charizard and Rhydon.

Yes 2 minutes less for T4 but also less HP. So I think duo Charizard is possible.
According to PKB, 328.0s is the time-to-win for Level 40 RT/SE Golem and the deaths-to-win is 4. Since time-to-win is less than 360s (2 x 180s), it's theoretically doable with two squads of 5 maxed Golems

If you have legacy omastar at your disposal you can shave a few more seconds.

You only need two squads of 4 level 36 golems each to do the trick. I actually only used 3 golems on my acct, but I'm pretty sure my wife was on her 4th by the end of the raid. I'm level 40, she's level 37

Rhydon should also be doable with high level eggys, though I haven't heard of anyone actually who actually did it.

In theory 2 people with 6 level 37+ perfect eggys with BS/SoB could just barely do it with no lag.

https://www.pokebattler.com/raids/defenders/RHYDON/cp/30512/attackers/attackerLevels/37/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE_RANDOM_MC?sort=TIME&dodgeStrategy=DODGE_REACTION_TIME

Then enter the variable of megahorn LOL

Eggy should be exceptional VS any Rhydon sans megahorn however.

I have done Charizard with 2. Both of us lvl 37 with golems with rock moves.

I can confirm that Charizard is possible. Last night my wife and I took one down, I'm lvl 40 and she's 37. All you need is 3 high level golems each to drop it. We tried a TTar a few days ago and didn't do well, but it was our first try. It's my goal to duo a TTar before the raids change.

How high are yalls Golems if you don't mind me asking? Sounds like something my wife and I might be able to do soon ourselves.

Thanks. I just need to power up my 3rd Golem. It's a 91% IV. Have a 100% at a little over 2800 CP and another 91% at mid 2600 CP. Wife has a 100% high 2700 CP, and a 96% and 91% around 2300 ish. Just need her to invest a little more into those 2. She also has a level 30 she evolved from a Geodude a wild catch that's 87%. This is definitely going to be one our goals now. All of ours are RT/SE too.
Thanks for the response too.