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Why deleting dodege window info for charge moves?

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago

whats the reason for deleting dodege window info for charge moves? I noticed that only this page has these info now. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/charge-moves. Also, in the "Combat" page, it used to say that how much damage you can dodge ralated to what percentage of the damge window you cover with dodge. Any mechainics changed?

Asked by neoiw8 years 7 months ago
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Our research shown that moves do not have a variable dodge window. Instead, dodging is binary: either you take full damage of the attack, or receive a 75% damage reduction from a successful dodge.

The only thing that matters is time your dodge just after the yellow flash from each defender attack.

As such, we removed the dodge window information from GamePress to avoid further confusion. See the new gym mechanics page for more details:

http://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/gym-combat-mechanics

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thanks for replying. Can I see how the research was done? any link would help.

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Unfortunately, we didn't make a write up for this one. The gist of it is we took vod of gym battles and analyzes them frame by frame. Here's a TSR thread that shared our conclusion:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4xv1b8/id_like_to_challenge_the_working_theory_on_dodge/?ref=search_posts

The test GamePress done that considered it definitive was against a defender with Twister, chosen because it's a fast charging move with a long dodge window (850-2600ms). We found that no matter how we vary our dodge timing and attempts, damage reduction was always 75% or nothing.

We also found that nothing works except dodging within half second of the yellow flash. Which is a clear violation of the 850-2600ms "dodge window" according to the game code.

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