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Mewto's Confusion/Physo Cut.

Hi folks, about this question. Assuming we have charge move as Focus Blast or Hyper Beam. Will you still put Gengar or Pinsir/Scizor in your team? They have slightly less Stamina. In my opinion, C/FB, I will still put Gengar, but is that worth for pushing Damage? How did you guys think?

Asked by KillKindness7 years 10 months ago
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I still have a Shadow Claw/Shadowball Gengar at level 28. Maybe will use it for Psychocut/Focus Blast, but not really anything else. Honest players might actually prefer Focus Blast Mewtwo b/c with any other move: Lick Snorlax will be a common sight from other raiders. Just be careful about powering something up that will at best last 15-20 seconds. Also, if you are halfway dead before the boss is halfway dead...exit right then and return. If the computer gIves you a weak first attacker, just pick the best one of your new 6

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Though recommended from GoPress, I will not use the mon you mentioned as they are glass counter imo. For me the most important thing in a raid battle is self contribution which provides more premium balls.

For me I usually pick 6 out of 7 below for Lugia combat (mimic mewtwo psychic nature; if it is a Focus blast Mewtwo I would probably use 2 Gary together - genger/pinsir/scizor are too low in STA that resistance could not help much imo) and found they are very good counters against Lugia. I must say Snorlax is actually doing reali well not only becoz it's bulk but lick also contribute to psychic attack.

Very often I will be the last few players (4-5 out of 15 or 16) remaining to fight with Lugia and that period give me chance to earn self damage as much as possible.

FYI my 7 mon's Lv and IV:

  1. 100 Trex; Lv32
  2. 97.8 Trex; Lv32
  3. 93.3 Trex; Lv32
  4. 93.3 Gary; Lv 31
  5. 97.8 Gary; Lv 29
  6. 82.2 Snorlax; Lv 36.5
  7. 82.2 Snorlax; Lv 36.5
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Your plan isn't too much like my plan, but it is a sound and safe one. A lot of this will be reading the size and experience of the raid crowd and yes, using many things you've learned from Lugia. Mewtwo isn't going to fall super quick, but if you pick very vulnerable pokemon, then you could be toast in 75 secs and scrambling to get some damage credit

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Thank you for your detail response! I appreciate that, men. However, I think T-Rex could not survive more than one FB. In this case, it would be same as Gengar, in fact, one Gengar might do more damage in this case. Unfortunately, I only got one Gengar SC/ShB. Gary with double dark is good, but I prefer Dragonite with DT/O, DB/O. Much stronger

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Yes I also agree your saying that Trex would be glass for a FB Mewtwo. Dragonite maybe good and let's c by the time it comes out.

Another thing would like to mention is that Houndoom is neither a good option from my friend's experience whom has two perfect Lv30 Houndoom. He says it still not bulk enough to survive for Lugia charge move - so I would think it will be even worse for Mewtwo.

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Against a C/FB Mewtwo, Trex isn't going to be anymore glassy than most of the alternatives when placed in the first slot. Nearly everything is dead after 3/4 Confusions and a FB.

It's only when coming into the fight later on when a FB could be the first thing you see that the alternatives shine relative to Trex.

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From my experience of solo Alakazam with confusion, I would recommend you to be careful using gengar. Unless you are ready to dodge quick move too, it may not be a good idea to use gengar. If you don't dodge, you gengar will be dead after three quick move even from 271 attack alakazam. Mewtwo has attack 300 and your gengar may take two hits? If you have the dodge bug too, two gengar should be dead before any of them even fire charge move.

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Or we should change the way of thinking. If I got 20 people in my group, I will definitely use Gengar to shot one ShB and happy to die. Gengar could do a lot amounts of damage in big size of group in short time. I m willing to do it, it from my experience. I knew it might not answer your response correctly, just my Opinion.

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The way I see it, there are two good reasons to use glass cannons:

  1. Your raid group is so big and/or strong that you are certain of victory during your first six, so you want to deal some good damage out the gate. You can throw away one or two Mon and your squad of six will still survive until the raid ends.
  2. Victory is far from certain, and the battle will go down to the wire. You know your first six won't make it, so you might as well go kamikaze and do as much damage as possible while still giving yourself plenty of time to get back in the battle. The game doesn't tend to auto-select glass cannons either, so you'll be able to anticipate how it will choose your second squad and what you'll need to modify.
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But My point is you can't even fire one shadow ball if you can't dodge well. Also, it might take some time for gengar to fire shadow ball. So it is very likely your gengar is KOed by Mewtwo when it is trying to fire shadow ball. Also, If your gengar is hit by Mewtwo before your shadow ball register, it won't count. All of the above can happen and the only way that you can prevent those is to practice. Otherwise, anything else is just theory.

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I think a possible way for you to work out is to try to use a scizor against Trex raid (glass yet resistant).

I tried to use my IV91 scizor before as thinking it is resistant; however, it cannot sustain one single stone edge even I have dodged successfully and that's why my concern is still it is too fragile for you to launch sufficient damage.

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I knew Scizor is very weak at STA. It's just super effective to Tyar. I can feel it won't stay long on the ground. I will use it for big group raid, I guess

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Can't remember who, but someone did an analysis that showed against Confusion Mewtwo a Shadow Ball Gengar needed to be at least Lv 32 with perfect Defense and Stamina in order to survive long enough to get a shadow ball off. With lesser iv's it was higher levels.

The only bad part is you need to know what Mewtwo's charge move is. If Mewtwo has Shadow Ball then great, the raid boss used a charge move to wipe out a 1HP gengar. Otherwise, Mon #2 will be eating that charge move shortly after they come in. Against HB and FB, another Gengar could handle it, but if it's Psychic, then you can go Ttar.

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Although my Gengar with ATT IV9, but def/sta are all 15. Is that enough to survive and also shot one shadow ball?

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I think with gengar against confusion Mewtwo, it is a very tricky situation. Best advise that I can give is to practice dodging. At least try an alakazam raid, then you would at least know which direction you should go to.

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