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Are the Legendaries really all that rare?

Based on the pokedexes of trainers at the raids I'd say Legendaries are on the more common side of pokemon. At least right now.

For example. I'm almost level 38. I have more Moltres and Zapdos (9 and 12) than I do Lapras. I have almost as many of them as I do Snorlax. I only have four Dragonites.

One can argue that, if you're putting forth the effort to raid, Legendaries are some of the most common higher-tier pokemon in the game right now. A lot of low level players have at least a few of each of these pokemon. I have no problem with that, that's cool, but it does suggest the birds' rarity as not being exceptionally rare.

Moreover, the birds are extremely limited in their use for obvious reasons.

They obviously have a cool factor. And heck yeah, as someone with a near-complete pokedex (still need to get off my butt and get an unown) you gotta get these birds for your pokedex.

But the fact remains, I see a lot of people with 40 or 50 combined legendaries. Sometimes much more.

So my question is, are these birds as great as you first thought? I know in my area it's getting tougher and tougher to get raids together. It appears Niantic has squeezed this golden goose for all it's worth.

I'm glad I have them. And at the risk of offending a few of you who have not been as lucky as I, I have transferred my fair share.

And honestly, I don't want or need any more. I still raid for the XP and the items. But the birds? meh. I have two 98% Zapdos', a 95% Articuno, and at least one Lugia and Moltres over 90%.

But I amassed about 800 rare candy before they squelched the drop rate for it. I got a lot of TMs and changed a lot of sub-par pokemon to class-A mons. (My first two Dragonites in the game were SW/HB...they're now DT/O).

Just wanted to see if anyone else has lost the fever for these birds. Or is it just my area?

Asked by Mooncusser7 years 10 months ago
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That's exactly why I have only one of each, except 3 Lugias since I've had great luck there. My Moltres is 73% and still I don't bother to catch any better. Just if I would stumble into a raid, but definitely not chasing one across town.

I use a 67% and a 71% Dnite in my solo-raids to Machamp and they do the job nicely. No need to chase IV's unless that is your end-game. For me it's soloing T3s. A lot of interesting considerations to build the best team for each boss, and rarely any legendaries in those plans (I thought about Lugia, but since I defeat Machamp without any, I save my candies for Mewtwo).

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I too am only raiding for items now. In fact from now until mewtwo I desperately need to get A stock of golden berries, so will likely not even catch any bosses.

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Knowing Niantic, I really thought they'd let people only keep one legendary. Now I have an entire page of legends and they really arent worth much individually. Though, even if legends itself arent that rare, actually catching them still gives me a headache, maybe RNG is just not nice.

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by Gutz88 7 years 10 months ago

The only legendary part of the legendaries is the legendary cashflow niantic is experiencing.

This summer is going to be.. LEGENDARY.. lame

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Now I have more Zapdos than Poliwrath, more Moltres than Charizard, and more Articuno than Lapras. Hell even more Lugia (3) than Ampharos (2)!
Don't think legendaries are rare if you live in urban city and buy many passes. Even if you are a F2P but live in urban city and do raid daily you are expected to have more legendaries than yanma

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The raid interest has dropped slightly. It's become harder to put a group together for a simple reason. People's interest is divided. Some people need articuno, some moltres, etc. Some prefer T-Tar for the upcoming of mewtwo. Some don't care anymore because they are done. So, it's difficult to put a group together because there's not a common interest. But if you try you can still organise a group big enough to spend the pass of the day. It just takes more effort than a couple of weeks ago.

Birds are rare enough. It's just a perception that they are too common, too easy. Caused by some players fever. Players who spent a lot of money were feeding rare candy to pidgey and run out of space in their inventory. Don't assume that this is the general trend. Most of us struggled to play 1-2 raids a day during the fever and any 1 daily raid now sounds great. Many people are still missing some if not all of the birds...

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I have nearly lost my interest of raiding them, I have a good Zapdos, a good Articuno and an OK Lugia. I gave up on Moltres, though. It is quite hard to find an Overheat one with 82% IV or above.

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The full raiding system has changed the game completely right now an under lvl 20 account can have more TTar and legendaries than a lvl 40

Is even funny how some lvl 20ish actually do more damage on raids than 30ish just spaming zapdos, articuno and TTar at lvl 20 :_)

At lvl 30 maybe somebody had 1 TTar before if lucky

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Tha'ts why I think Mewtwo should be one limited for player. Actually, should be like that for every legendary including the birds.
You sucessfuly defeated a legendary raid boss?
A ???? Bird appears. Try to catch it. Hey, you gotcha! A message appears demanding you to choose between the one you have and the new one you just catch.
In that way people will still try more raids to catch better ones, would be a fun gamble thing and the candys of course.
Why you can't put then in gyms? 'Cause you only have one and they are 'blessing' you.
It's a legendary pokémon, makes no sense everyone with 30 of then

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Just limit it to one in our attacking party. Then a player could still decide to power up one Mewtwo with Psychic, one with Shadow Ball, and maybe one with Focus Blast, but they could only choose one each time they fight.

I think all legends should have been restricted to one per attacking party like this, but it might be too late to make that change now. Maybe if they opened gyms up to one legend per gym, each player can only place one of each legend in any gyms, that would compensate slightly for people that have powered up two.

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You lucky, lucky people. As a rural player, I have 1 Zapdos, 1 low level Lugia and 0 Articunos. It's dang near impossible to gather enough people to take down a Snorlax gym, let alone a legendary. If I drive 30 minutes out of town and I do it at the right time, I can just find 8 to 10 people for a legendary. Except that most of them already have a few of each already and no longer come to the raids. I envy your catches.

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by daltry 7 years 10 months ago

No.

Nothing in a raid is rare. I have caught about 6 Grimer in the wild and about 8 Muk in raids. I have hatched 2 Larvitar, caught 0 Larvitar in the wild, I've never even evolved a Larvitar into a Puitar (so no Dex for me) and I have caught 5 Tyranitar in raids.

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You wanna see what a legendary bird looks like ...

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The only value I've found in the Birds is their charge moves are pretty devastating to type. More so, Articuno rarely needs to reach a charge to wipe out decent Dragonites.

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by aSp 7 years 10 months ago

If you are only going to look at the dex of people who do raids, then I can understand why you think that everyone has many of the raid mons.

Those that have been going to raids do indeed have many...but that doesn't mean they are common for everyone.

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Well sure, if include apathy as a reason to not have many, then yeah.

But chances are there were a lot more chances to catch a legendary bird than a dragonbite.

I've caught I've had the opportunity to catch 28 Zapdos (caught 12). I've had the opportunity to catch 0 Dragonites, 0 Poliwraths, 1 Muk, 6 Lapras....

Do you see the pattern here? Also, you get a 2 hour notice that a Legendary will be availble to catch. You get zero notice besides possibly a "nearby" sighting for a dragonite. Finding it is up to you. Catching it is likely going to be more difficult than a Legendary.

In short, you could amass a Legendary army in the time it takes to never find a single dragonite. If you only used one raid pass a day then you found 31 legendaries and possibly had 31 catch attempts. And if you used some coins from gyms that number goes up.

Those that have not be going to raids indeed don't have many. But that's got more to do with circumstance (indifference, apathy, atrocious RNG) than anything else.

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Many of us can't get them, I feel the game is now divided into the haves and the have nots (I'm one) ....

Can't wait for a break from all this legendary raiding, bring on gen 3!

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You say you can't wait fro a break from the raids, which suggests you're going to them. If you still have none than you're either not throwing right or just the victim of incredibly bad RNG.

At the raids I have gone to I have caught a dozen or so birds for other players that show up that can't seem to catch them. If you want the bird and don't care about doing it yourself, maybe ask someone with a higher catch rate to try to catch it for you.

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