Raid system

So what?

How that player experiences the game has little to no impact on how you experience the game. If you decide to be salty about them playing the game by the rules that's on you.

What if that person worked hard to assemble a team JUST to solo that Muk? That's a great accomplishment for them and has nothing to do with you. Maybe they jumped in on a raid with a friend and had a nice time together taking it down. That's cool. Either way, the time it took you to get a Muk has nothing to do with them or anyone else, really. Quite frankly, the fact that you're annoyed by someone getting a Muk at this point in the game's existence is laughable.

Is it "fair" that they can have a level 20 Muk at level 16? Maybe not. But what difference does that really make? They'll have to gain 3 levels just to power it up once. Again, it has little to no impact on you.

It's a game that's meant to be played for fun. There's no true end goal or way to "win," so it's all about achieving personal goals and having fun. If it's not fun for you to watch other people have a good time — especially while they gain no advantage over you — maybe this isn't the game for you.

I am happy a level 20 player has a Muk, but not sure what the point of this post is.

I thought we were past the point of being unreasonably upset by the idea that newer/casual players were allowed to get good pokemon.

You've raised an interesting question, but probably not the one you intended. My assumption was that, as with hatches, a raid boss pokemon could not exceed the level of the trainer (i.e. a level 20 or higher player gets a level 20 mon; a level 16 player gets a level 16 mon). But the max CP for a level 17.5 Muk (max for a level 16 player, powered up three times from level 16, IV's of 15/15/15) is only 1354.

However, the minimum CP for a level 20 raid boss Muk (IV's of 10/10/10) is 1474.

So, it appears to me that this Muk is somewhere between level 17.5 and level 20. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

My 32 month old son is a champ at Pokemon, @level 12 he can take down your level 35 Snorlax (when at 500cp). He is better at catching Rattatas, Pidgeys, and Spinaraks than me--I just have to throw them away as soon as he gets them, he'll max the S*** out of those. He is sitting on 13k stardust

I understand the feeling. It's not blaming the player. It's just the new raid system has taken a lot of the fun out of playing. I never saw a Grimer, less hatched one. After almost one year I came close to 50 candies, hatched a Grimer and evolved my first Muk and completed gen1 (except the obvious ones). Next week they released Muk in raids...

That's just how the game is now...I walked my Grimer during Halloween to get enough candies to evolve Muk. Eventually, Niantic will give everyone everything I feel. No need to grind, walk, etc...IMO.

I think the key is just to not care honestly...It's a casual mobile game....Remember that. We keep hashing out hate/dislikes and ultimately, it just pisses yourself off so play like me...

Just don't care what people have...Play if you enjoy it, stop if you don't...No one cares if you are salty. I still play since I'm "casual".

I got my first Tyranitar at level 35 was it? I DID have near 600 candies before EVOLVING one...Got Dnite at 34?

Saw a lot of downvotes on Nick's latest vid...

I suppose some people feel they NEED to complete the dex and it's not fair and all that...I suppose after watching the vid yesterday, I didn't get upset at all...I'm 38+ now and "only" have 231/242...Still no Gyarados because I am an IV snob and don't want to evolve random sub 90% fishys. Was also too lazy to DRIVE to catch Porygon during Valentines event.

I'm OK WITH THAT...Doesn't really matter. Let people have their fun and have your own fun...