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Hypothetical: sta vs def for an offensive pokemon?

This is in order to understand how the stats work better. Let's say you have two pokemon to use on offense that are identical in every possible way except:
A. Att 200 def 100 sta 300
B. Att 200 def 300 sta 100

Again, this is a hypothetical in which you are on offense and no such pokemon actually exist.

Which do you choose and why?

Asked by 2Crom7 years 10 months ago
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I don't understand it either but I think the Consensus is.... less defence and more Health. Taking damage increases charge move so you will do charged moves at a fast rate.

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I'm not sure what would be best between these two. But a 200/200/200 would be bulkier than any of them.

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I've wondered the same thing!

I think a close real world example is Lapras vs Cloyster as an ice attacker. They're both water/ice and can have the same moveset (let's say Fost Breath/Blizzard)

Lapras 165/180/260
Cloyster 186/323/100

People do say that Cloyster deals more damage accurately, however most people still prefer Lapras because it's bulkier. But if you add both of their DEF + STA they are Lapras 440, Cloyster 423. Lapras is just 17 points higher in combined DEF + STA, yet Lapras seems to survive much longer. Is it because of the 17 point difference? I'm not so sure. My guess is that stamina is better than defense if I had to make a general statement here. So Pokémon A is better?

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LOL not helpful.

100 + 300 = 400
300 + 100 = 400

You: it's not addition it's multiplication

Ok

100 * 300 = 30000
300 * 100 = 30000

That doesn't help anything. Try answering the question of which hypothetical pokemon is better, A or B.

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Why you are being such a jerk about it? Spryquasar was replying to YOUR question about why Lapras is tankier than Cloyster ("Is it because of the 17 point difference? I'm not so sure. My guess is that stamina is better than defense..."), prior to which you point out that Lapras's DEF + STA is 440, vs. 423 for Cloyster.

If you do the math, you'll find that Spryquasar answered YOUR question in that Lapras's DEF*STA = 46,800, vs. 32,300 for Cloyster.

Maybe you should consider the possibility that you didn't understand someone's answer or its context before you choose to be a condescending jerk.

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Cloyster deals more damage due to it's higher ATK stat. Cloyster's high DEF stat simply means the damage from attacks from opposing pokemon gets reduced more, but cloyster still has a low STA. So it can't take as much damage before fainting.
Lapras survives longer cause she has a decent DEF stat and over 2.5x the STA of cloyster, so she can take a lot more damage before fainting

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Riiight. You can define DEF and STA until the Miltanks come home but it's not answering the original hypothetical question. I wonder which you think is better, A or B?

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The damage formula assuming 0% iv lvl 40 is
Floor(0.5pwratk/def)+1
pwr is the move damage.
hp=stamina.
Let's assume pwr=100 and atk=200 then in case A the attack will do 101 damage which is 33% of hp. Case B it will do 34 damage which is 34% of hp. In other words, the same.
One thing to consider is that damage contribute to energy charge, I think 2 hp=1 energy unit so case A will charge 50 energy units and case B only 17. So Case A will be better overall.

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by agNZ 7 years 10 months ago

A. Defense dont seem to be so determinant like stamina, in my experience. You seem to be able to take a lot of more damage with huge stamina, but its not like that when you have a lot of defense.

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