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Best Ice attacker?

I have always wondered why Jynx is rarely listed as a good ice attacker when it clearly has the highest attack stat. Am I underestimated the value of stamina and defence for some reason? I know cloyster has a much higher defence and Lapras has a much higher stamina. But if Jynx can potentially k.o. before the defender gets a charge move off, isn't that better? What am I missing?

Asked by 2Crom7 years 10 months ago

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Whether a mon that does higher DPS or one with better survivability is "better" is something you have to choose for yourself. If you are trying to solo 3* bosses you are likely to be very dependant on DPS (higher attack mons). If you can use a combination of good attack and survivability for raids in your area then a mon with good attack stats and defensive stats may be better. No one can really grade such things as they are very particular to your situation. I know that for my situation Jynx would be tough to justify powering up. For you it could be very different.

In most cases gyms should be a lower consideration for usefulness as for most folks time or even potions may not be an issue. And gyms simply are not anywhere near as hard as they used to be. The real challenges that demand dust expenditures in most cases are in raids where limited time or required damage for limited numbers is a unavoidable consideration.

Jynx is also missing the resistances. So from the HP perspective, it is in a very bad place. Articuno has resistances and defense, Lapras has HP. Jynx has nothing but attack. Without any stamina you can't put out damage.

Edit: You know what, I'm taking that back. It's all about Stamina. No extra resistances on Water/Ice that are relevant. Articuno has resistance to ground, that's it.

RIght. I think a lot of "lists" the OP may be seeing are ones where a Jynx, unless at a super high level, dies himself before putting out enough damage to justify the expenditure or the time to switch mons.

My favorite Dragonite slasher has been Piloswine for weeks. Of course, Arti and Lapras (and even Cloyster or Jynx) seem to be #1 for D'nite counters but give Piloswine a try and you'll see this mon is freaking awesome (with IS or PS/Avalanche of course) ;-)

I'm even thinking of powering up to level 30 despite the fact I have a level 30 Arti and pretty strong Lapras.

Power it up as much as possible if you have a good IV one. This will be a beast in Gen4.

93% with 15 in ATT and STA (12 in DEF). I'm pretty happy with this one, took me more than 10 evolutions to get him but now I'm really satisfied with this guy. I also have 3 or 4 other ones with Ice moves but with lower IVs.

I just looked at the potential for Jynx as a Dragonite raid boss counter and for break point purposes she needs to be right at or above Lv 30 to be in the mix. Even then, you'd need about 50% more Jynxes than comparable counters (24 jynxes vs 16 cloysters , etc.).

I have both a Lv 30 Double Ice (96%) and a Lv 30 Double Psychic Jynx (44%). Despite the high DPS, the double psy. just couldn't crack my Machamp solo squad since she died far too quickly. In Gym battles, Double Ice Jynx appeared to make quicker work of Dnite (few secs.), but one missed dodge and she was toast. My Lv 30 Cloyster (91%) while frail, didn't need perfect dodging to take out 2 dragons.

Jynx can only be considered ice attacker as she has the highest attack stats among ice mons. As a psychic there are much better options so no wonder she didn't get into your solo machamp squad. alakazam, espeon and even an eggys produce higher dps as psychic.
The only time Jynx entered my raid squad was against a zapdos when the group size was 11 people, so I put her first as a glass cannon before my golems for dps, as I knew it will be a short battle.

Yeah, but when I first started putting together my team I didn't have the requisite number of Zams/Espeons (or TM's) so I had to look at other options.

So while looking at the numbers Jynx's weave DPS was comparable to the C/SB Zam I have. The problem was she died in a few seconds and I wasn't able to reap the benefits of the high DPS. Her weave DPS was slightly over 18, which SHOULD have been enough.