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Would you TM this Machamp?

I only have 1 Machamp with double fighting moves (3 total, but the others have bullet punch). This one has counter/submission. Since it's a legacy move, I know that brings all 3 current moves into play. So would you TM submission or just keep it?

Asked by bigegan187 years 9 months ago
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Really depends on the IVs. I assume you've already used a fast TM on this one to get counter, because I don't believe you can obtain Counter/Submission after evolving. If its 90+, I would say go ahead and use it.

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I would not. I only use TMs if its a Win-win change. Submission>Heavy slam. Theres a 1/3 that you will get heavy slam wich is horrible. I would not, but if you feel like its a core attacker then sure go for it

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More information would be helpful:
* What are the levels of the Machamps
* What are the IVs of the Machamps
* How many Machop candies do you have
* What charge moves do the 2 Machamps with Bullet Punch have
* How many fast and charge TMs do you have

Like if this Machamp was low level and low IVs, I wouldn't bother when I could find a Machamp raid and get a better one with no dust or candy investment, and even if the raid Machamp does get BP/HS, using a charge TM would guarantee a better move unlike your one with Submission.

Or if you have some fast TMs and the BP Machamps have DP, CR or CL, then it would make more sense to use a fast TM on them because you're guaranteed to get Counter.

But if the BP Machamps are still level 20 and you have no Machop candies, then using TMs right now doesn't make sense because they'd still be weak since they'd be unpowered.

Giving the right answer depends on each individual's sitatuion.

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The other 2 machamps are level 20 and both have bullet punch/close combat, one is 84 IV the other 80.
This one is level 30 77.8 IV. And I have 20 candies and ATM no TMs

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If Machamp raids are not a problem for you - either you can solo them or you can always get 2 people at a Machamp raid - then I wouldn't use a TM on this Machamp.

It's still really good for raids as it is currently. There's far worse things that people bring to a Tyranitar raid than a 'B' rated Machamp.

Plus with good quality Pokemon being easier to obtain from raids instead of grinding 125 candies personally I would be more picky when it comes to IVs.

And because you don't have any TMs, I'm guessing they're hard to come by. If that is true, then I would rather use a TM on a Pokemon that benefits more from it, for example a Tyranitar with Fire Blast, or a Golem with 1 Rock + 1 Ground move.

If you're still set on using a charge TM on this Machamp, I would suggest you have 2 charge TMs ready in case you get Heavy Slam on the first try, so you can get Close Combat or Dynamic Punch with the second TM.

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Thanks. I will probably wait then on this one. I have started getting to do some higher level raids now that quite a few players are out again but have only gotten 2 fast tms and 1 charge tm, which I used a fast on a ttar to get bite. And my other charge I used on perfect IV dragonite to get rid of hyper beam. So I'll wait on this one and use them on others

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by alexir 7 years 9 months ago

Use TM in which you want, there are a lot of TMs (more now with tier 5 raids) and you dont need to keep 20TMs in your inventory lol.
But in this case, it's not neccesary, do it only if you will use startdust on him (I wouldn't do it on a <90 IVs)

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I have a perfect BP/CC now it is C/Dp.
Cc - HS - cc - Dp
Used 3 and Wasted 2 Tm

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