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Charged TM Candidates

What should I use a charged TM on? Unlike the Fast TMs, it's never a sure thing!

Charged TM Candidates
Arcanine 15/15/15 100% IV Fire Fang Crunch -> to try to get FIRE BLAST
Machamp 15/12/15 93% IV Karate Chop Submissjon -> to try to get DYNAMIC PUNCH or CLOSE COMBAT
Alakazam 15/13/15 96% IV Confusion Shadow Ball -> to try to get FUTURE SIGHT
Gyardos 14/15/15 98% IV Bite Crunch -> to get either OUTRAGE or HYDRO PUMP
Typhlosion 14/15/12 91% IV Ember Solar Beam to try to get OVERHEAT
Tyranitar 11/14/15 89% IV Bite Crunch -> to try to get STONE EDGE (already have two high IV ttar with Bite/Crunch)

Asked by radioasis0078 years ago
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I wouldn't use it on anyone who currently is a raid boss. Just use a raid pass to try to get another.

Maybe Gary...

The bite/crunch moveset for TTar and Gary will be very useful for mew and Mewtwo raids.

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Arcanine is not worth even 100 IV he is just cool and good fire attacker but not necessary meta pokemon

Machamp no worth the risk in failing and getting the other skill

Alazakam same as machamp can end up with focus blast

Gyarados not worth at all

Typlosion not worth same as arcanine

Tyranitar not worth the risk of getting fireblast

summary no t oeverybody

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I would say save it for the Machamp. You could gamble now, or save 2 charge TMs so that you guarantee a fighting charge move since you could get Heavy Slam on the first TM.

Not Typhlosion or Arcanine because even with their best movesets they are inferior to Charizard / Flareon.

Gyarados with Bite Crunch still has some use for Alakazam or Gengar raids, plus I don't think it's worth the TM because it doesn't really excel at anything with Bite + Outrage or Bite + Hydro Pump, it's just a decent generalist, but you already have 2 Tyranitars for that.

Vaporeon is better if you're taking advantage of Hydro Pump being super effective because it's got Water Gun and ice Pokemon are far better counters to Dragonite than a Bite + Outrage Gyarados.

Tyranitar has a great moveset already so I wouldn't risk getting Fire Blast unless you had 2 charge TMs, and even then you might get Crunch again, whereas with the Machamp, 2 charge TMs is a guaranteed upgrade since Close Combat and Dynamic Punch are both better than Submission.

From the wording it seems like you're saying you have 3 Tyranitars with Bite + Crunch, so Alakazam raids should be no problem for you even solo, meaning you could just wait for another Alakazam raid or just evolve an Eevee into an Espeon and save yourself a TM.

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Arcanine:
I would rather change FF to Snarl.

Machamp:
Yes, but you might get Heavy Slam.

Alakazam:
Shadow Ball can be used against Gengar and Alakazam raid bosses.

Gyarados:
Bite/Crunch is already a good and solid moveset, no need to waste TMs.

Typhlosion:
Maybe evolve a new Flareon/Charizard.

Tyranitar:
Bite/Crunch will be useful in tier 5 raids, you may regret the change at that time, if you do.

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I'd use it on the Machamp. Karate Chop is faster and builds energy quicker than Counter. Its speed makes dodging much easier as well. (Also, depending which sources you trust, KC/DP is arguably Machamp's best moveset.)

Had I known TMs were coming, I'd have never deleted all the KC Machamp I kept getting. :(

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What level is your Machamp?

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Assuming all your Pokemon are level 20, I would advice you to save your charge TM. You can get better versions by raiding these days.

As you stated, charge TMs are never a sure thing. One day raid bosses will change, that is the moment you might want to consider using a charge TM on one of the above.

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by GS1 8 years ago

Don't touch that Tyra or Gary. B/C is gonna be THE moveset against Mewtwo

I would maybe use it on Machamp or alakazam. But that's about it unless you're swimming in TMs.

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wow im jelous of that machamp- easily go with that. (only karate chop machamp i have has low ivs)- its arguably a better fast move than counter- charges moves faster but think of it this way. currently the single best attacker in the game is machamp. the one you have is pretty useless (submission...eh)..if you get karate chop dynamic punch ...badassssss moveset - you basically just added another top tier attacker to your squad-esp given the ivs.

the only other pokes on your list id tm at all (machamp first choice no brainer)- is that alakazam. though shadowball isnt entirely useless. unless your drowning in tms id say only use them on guys you know youll be using often. tyran - please dont --bite crunch is the ideal set to counter mewtwo/any psychic- pretty much what tyran is best for..and theres alwys the chance you get fireblast...

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As a general rule, you are better off using charge TMs to get rid of terrible moves than to gamble on the optimal move.

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