Bullet seed / solar beam exeggutor

I did this but I have other Eggs with Zen Headbutt. If you some decent ones with ZH, I'd say go for it.

I like bullet seed on solar beam beacuase it makes that 100% charge requirement more frequently obtained

Yes, with the change in how super effective damage is calculated and the nerf to stab, bullet seed is now better than zen headbutt or extrasensory if you are countering water.

Expensive use of a TM for possible slight benefits IMO...maybe worst damage actually.

Is it maxed out? Confusion does more damage than Bullet Seed and looking at the gamepress info right now, it looks like Extrasensory does more damage too, even with the 1.4x added on top of the DPS number for Bullet Seed...

Extrasensory seems to do 50% more damage than Bullet Seed (12 vs 8) for the same cooldown.

i dropped it, below 80 IV and thus useless

Hmm, I played around with pokebattler and get a different result:

I clicked on Raid Guide...then I clicked on Vaporeon, then the Exeggutor face...I clicked on "Time to Win" sort method...

DSP of Extrasensory / Solar Beam:
Damage 552
Energy 76
Damage per Second 19.51
https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/EXEGGUTOR/quickMoves/EXTRASENSORY_FAST/cinMoves/SOLAR_BEAM/levels/30/ivs/FFF/defenders/VAPOREON/quickMoves/WATER_GUN_FAST/cinMoves/HYDRO_PUMP/levels/30/ivs/FF702/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE?includeDetails=true

I change move to Bullet Seed / Solar Beam:
Damage 536
Energy 96
Damage per Second 18.94
https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/EXEGGUTOR/quickMoves/BULLET_SEED_FAST/cinMoves/SOLAR_BEAM/levels/30/ivs/FFF/defenders/VAPOREON/quickMoves/WATER_GUN_FAST/cinMoves/HYDRO_PUMP/levels/30/ivs/FF702/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE?includeDetails=true

For Zen Headbutt / Solar Beam
Damage 572
Energy 70
Damage per Second 18.57
https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/EXEGGUTOR/quickMoves/ZEN_HEADBUTT_FAST/cinMoves/SOLAR_BEAM/levels/30/ivs/FFF/defenders/VAPOREON/quickMoves/WATER_GUN_FAST/cinMoves/HYDRO_PUMP/levels/30/ivs/FF702/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE?includeDetails=true

For Completeness:
Confusion / Solar Beam
Damage 600
Energy 85
Damage per Second 19.48
https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/EXEGGUTOR/quickMoves/CONFUSION_FAST/cinMoves/SOLAR_BEAM/levels/30/ivs/FFF/defenders/VAPOREON/quickMoves/WATER_GUN_FAST/cinMoves/HYDRO_PUMP/levels/30/ivs/FF702/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE?includeDetails=true

Pokebattler is showing Extrasensory does higher DPS than Bullet Seed even against Vaporeon...

Something off?

Trying to research a bit more for myself...but looking on old threads (post gym rework), here's dondon's opinion...Take it for whatever it's worth, but with TM drop rates so low lately (haven't gotten one in 12 days), I'd honestly keep ZH since as I've stated before, moves can change and ZH could be great again...You can raid Eggs currently for ES or BS/SoB which is a cheaper option IMO than using a Fast TM...

I have quite a few ZH/P Eggs and don't plan to swap a legacy move in case it's tweaked...(like confusion was)...

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/6jymzw/solo_vaporeon_raid_possible_at_level_30/

[–] dondon151 10 days ago
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Bullet Seed and Extrasensory (and Zen Headbutt) have the same cooldown - 1100 ms.

Ultimately, Bullet Seed is better than Extrasensory by less than the margin that Extrasensory is better than Zen Headbutt. With type advantage, Bullet Seed does slightly less damage than either Extrasensory or Zen Headbutt, but gains +2 energy compared to Extrasensory and +4 energy compared to Zen Headbutt.

All in all, the difference between Bullet Seed and Extrasensory is pretty tiny. It's not something that I would recommend anyone using a fast TM over.
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Against Vaporeon, all 4 quick moves with Solar Beam perform pretty similarly, despite Bullet Seed's type advantage.
Against Rhydon which grass is double SE to, Bullet Seed wins hands down.

Short answer no. I just picked up a BS/SoB 1652 Exeggutor in a solo raid using only Charizard and Arcanine. So easy to get, don't waste a TM.