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Speculation on when raid bosses will change

Machamp is clearly the best Pokemon to be currently investing in, but is this a good long term strategy? With the exception of Blissey, he won't have many favorable match-ups going forward if they change the bosses, especially against the Legendaries.

Do we have any idea how quickly or frequently they will change? With the cost of maxing out Pokemon, would we be better off focusing of future counter, or generalist attackers like Dragonite?

I feel like Tyranitar is the safest bet, and it has strong dark and rock moves, but what after That?

I would hate to finish maxing a 3rd Machamp only to get flooded with the Legendaries, many of which are psychic and flying...

What are your plans going forward?

Asked by KESAthans8 years ago
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My plans. Just do a raid a day. Do not even try a level 3 or 4 alone. and Catch what i catch. for the most part i keep 2-3 main pokemon counters just because i am scarce on stardust so i am not gonna invest in a counter that isn't good next week, could be tomorrow for all we know. I would Invest right when the change happens then accumulate stardust and candy until the next change.

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I'd say machamp is not worth the bother. Easy to obtain candies so you won't desperately miss it even if it was removed as a raid.

I'm going with rock and dark (tyranitars); preparing for raiding mew, mewtwo, zaptos, articuno, Moltres

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I've already got a maxed out B/SE. I'm not sure but I'm probably going with golem against the birds. Not decided however. If Rhydon or tyranitar gets a quick stone move I'm going for that.

I'm not sure regarding the number of B/C so I'm saving candies and I might as well try to catch a couple of tyranitars on the way.

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I think two of each would be very nice indeed! I currently have three B/SE at L30, but no B/C. Hope to catch a B/C at a raid or else I will TM one of my B/SE's.

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Easy to obtain candies? Wow, I only evolved my first Machamp last month. Walking Machop right now. Machops are super rare here.

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i live close to a frequent spawn point and I find larvitars a hell of a lot more seldom than chops.

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I thought the same thing, lmao. Took me AGES to get the one and only Machamp I had. I only got my second Machamp as the result of a raid.

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What are your plans going forward?

Invest for the moments but keep some dust. When the legendary birds come, i will have sufficient ressources to power up two golems.

For now, i only power up one tyranitar (i get my candies during raids) and one machamp (i walk with him)
With both, i am candy-limited, thus, i don't spend too much dust.

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Hopefully they will never change.

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i think one of their adverts has dragonite and ninetails as raid bosses but if they all change then the next rotation will inevitably be weaker then the current one overall.

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I've powered up two and I'm stopping there. Any L4 raid will require more than just me, so others will have their counters to bring to bear. And I think that will be the case for any high-level boss going forward. I don't feel the need to carry the weight by myself and spend an inordinate amount of resources on a cache of specific Pokemon with niche uses.

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I would not call a pokemon that counters most of the former top defenders (Blissey, Snorlax, Lapras, Tyranitar) a niche use.

When they install a relevant gym-fighting again, there will be use for Machamp again.

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Niche use in my original statement meant multiple copies for a Raid Boss. I don't need six Machamps to take out any L6 gym in the current configuration, whatever its composition.

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No, but the more Machamps you get, the more candy (it's rare my way) and options I have. Still looking for my first C/DP after four raids and three evolutions. It's what I need, it's what I want, and it will have use going forward. So while your needs differ, your assumptions that people are just stocking up for an all-Machamp all-star team is misplaced. I'll spend a charge TM on a high IV Heavy Slam, get the guy I want, and have enough candies to power him up when I do by focusing on him. More T-Tars are also welcome, but I lucked out on my first and only evolution, so it's still less of a priority for me.

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Yes and no.

You get additional balls based on the TEAM'S contribution to the fight.

For instance, let's say 6 people took part in the raid, 2 Mystic, 2 Valor, 2 Instinct. If the Mystics combined did 50% of the damage, the Valors combined did 30% of the damage and the Instincts combined did 20% of the damage, the Mystic players would get many more balls, the Valor players would get some balls, and the Instincts would get few balls.

Obviously if you're soloing a raid then it doesn't matter because you're only competing against yourself. And obviously it doesn't matter what your contribution is if your entire team of raid players is entirely Mystic because it's gonna be Mystic who gets the bonus.

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I would always have spare dust around...I try to never go below 500k...have near 700k currently in case of changes.

As for maxing, it's probably better to take a few to Level 30 or so, then hold off going higher...You can "near" solo most Tier 3s with Level 30 mons already and in a raid group, hopefully other people have decent counters.

I have 4 level 30ish (2 at 31) Machamps currently...Not willing to invest more at this time due to candy/dust concerns.

I'd assume with the old system, many people already have maxed out Dnites, Rhydons (if he gets a quick rock move in an update, he'd be better than Golem)...so knowing that, you can just continue to keep 1 or 2 generalist maxed to be the 5th or 6th man (assuming you have the dust, and leave it at that...).

I haven't maxed out my Psychics yet since I never get Future Sight on 3 Espeons, but they should still win against Machamp I'd guess...

TMs are much much rarer now so I haven't even been willing to use one on my 97% RT/EQ Golem (lower level though) due to stardust concerns.

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I think the current raid bosses will stay for a while. Probably july and august. Maybe longer. The next thing is probably level 5 legendaries and then later there will be a rotation.

I just hope that the best Gen 3 mon aren't made immediately available upon release.

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I was worried they would rotate every two weeks with the nests (still don't have a Tyranitar because I only do 1 a day and just haven't had it work out).

I think every other nest migration would be better (basically once per month).

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I think that is too fast. There are not enough interesting mons for a once-a-month turnover. Especially not seeing as they have already gone through Tyranitar, Snorlax, Lapras, Machamp, 3 Eeveelutions, Alakazam, Venusaur and Gengar. Sure I can find several candidates for level 1, 2 and 3 raids, but for level 4 raids? That's tougher. I think two months at least.

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It's plausible that they might make frequent rotations of level 1-2 raids because there's plenty to choose from. But level 3 and 4 raids might remain stagnant for longer periods of time.

There's nothing preventing them from rotating the different tiers of raids at different times.

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I could see mons like Delibird, Stantler and Sneasel be level 1 raids. Or mons like Ninetales, Dewgong, or Piloswine be level 2 raids.

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I like to have a good mix of Pokémon so the only ones I have duplicates of max/near max are dragonite and tyranitar (w diff movesets). I just maxed a double rock golem, machamp, donphan, wing attack charizard, PC/FS Alakazam and steelix (kind of regret it but I plop it in gyms). Next up is a double bug scizor which will be a good counter to the psychic legendaries but want to recover some of my stardust before I bring him to at least lvl 30. Might eventually do a second machamp but need a fast TM before I consider it.

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Evolved 2 Geodudes level 27/28 and have now 3 level 30 Golems with rt/se for the legendary birds. Only plan is to get as much tyrannitars as possible for the legendary raids. Tyrannitar is effective vs 9 of the 11 legendaries (celebi doesn't have grass moves according to this site) and neutral vs 1. Only suicine is a bad matchup, but that is also the weakest legendary.

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So what's gonna happen when they rotate through all of the mons for raids and everybody has high IV mons with the best movesets? Then what?

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