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Machamp TM Question

Post-raid I caught a 96iv Machamp with BP/HS; it would take 2 TMs to make him useful. I already have two other Machamps that are L30 with double fighting moves. I have another L20 with 80iv C/HS, who is a candidate for a charge TM. I have 5 fast and 3 charge TMs so far. I currently have 193 machop candy. What TMs should I use on what Machamps, if any?

Asked by tri-guy8 years ago
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What level is the 96%? Edit: I see level 20. You could just use a charge TM and keep BP for the time. It isn't ideal, but still isn't a bad option, especially considering Tyranitar is weak to steel. I currently have 2 high level double fighting Machamps and a third one with bp/dp. I will TM it at some point, but honestly, what I have is enough. It's not like you can solo Tyranitar, Lapras, or Snorlax anyways.

I would take the 96 to 30 or 31.5 (I think that was the damage breakpoint.)

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i would love to have what ur on. bullet punch is nowhere close to counter. fast and charge tm your 96 and power it up all the way. imo machamp with c cc/dp is prolly the most important pokemon to have rn.

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http://goptimiz.fr/en/pokemons/machamp#movesets

You need to work on your reading comprehension. No where did I say bp is as good as counter. I said bp isn't a bad option. In fact, bp/dp does more damage than the kc/cc legacy combo. So go suck a lemon.

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Is this for neutral matchups though? Don't forget an additional 1.4x for fighting bonus when the defender is weak to it. And no, BP/DP does not do better than KC/CC, I'm pretty sure of that, it's precisely why I TMed the BP/DP and not the other one.

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What is with you people? OF COURSE COUNTER IS BETTER THAN BULLET PUNCH. All I said is bp isn't horrible. If you have a quick TM laying around, USE IT on that. But they may have more pressing needs. Also, as I mentioned the first time, bp is SE against Tyranitar.

And do me a favor...just look up the numbers and show me how wrong I am, instead of being "pretty sure."

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Look at this yourself, genius:
http://goptimiz.fr/en/pokemons/machamp#use

Your own link.
Don't know why I'm arguing with you anyway, you claimed scizor is a defender.

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Lol where did that come from? Actually any Pokemon is a defender.

Why are you being such a prick? I'm not sure what that link proves...that counter/Close combat is the best moveset?

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are u stupid bro. bullet punch is garbage. why should he keep a trash machamp when he can give it one of the best movesets in the game?

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https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/MACHAMP/quickMoves/BULLET_PUNCH_FAST/cinMoves/DYNAMIC_PUNCH/levels/30/ivs/FFF/defenders/TYRANITAR/quickMoves/IRON_TAIL_FAST/cinMoves/CRUNCH/levels/38.5/ivs/FFF/strategies/DODGE_ALL/DEFENSE_RANDOM_MC?includeDetails=true&dodgeStrategy=DODGE_REACTION_TIME&seed=1498956752854

https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/MACHAMP/quickMoves/KARATE_CHOP_FAST/cinMoves/CROSS_CHOP/levels/30/ivs/FFF/defenders/TYRANITAR/quickMoves/IRON_TAIL_FAST/cinMoves/CRUNCH/levels/38.5/ivs/FFF/strategies/DODGE_ALL/DEFENSE_RANDOM_MC?includeDetails=true&dodgeStrategy=DODGE_REACTION_TIME&seed=1498956933402

They both get the job done in about 19 seconds. BP/DP delivers more damage than KC/CC.

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can't argue with that. bottom line is that the man has 5 fast tms he should definitely use it on a high iv machamp, esp since tms are pretty ez to get

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Let's just agree on that. I have only gotten 2 fast TMs in over 50 raids. All I am doing is cautioning against using it right away, as he already has 2 fighting Machamps.

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