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New ratings criteria ?

Hey guys,

What was your criteria in order to make the new ratings ?

I ask because honestly I don't get some of them new changes, specially concerning Arcanine, Blastoise, Gyarados and Omastar.

Arcanine down to 8. He is still the best fire mon out there. IMO 8.5 was fine.

Blastoise 8.5. I think he should be 7.5 or 8. He was massively nerfed, I don't see why he is so up now.

Gyarados 9 while Omastar 9.5 ? Omastar got a huge buff and I love this mon (I have one with WG/HP) but he is just as useless as a Gyarados for defending (and even more), but Gyarados is an attacking monster now, while Omastar became a really good attacker. I think Gyarados should have 9.5 and Omastar 9.

There's another ones that I disagree but those are the most notable, IMO.

Asked by Emiliano558 years 8 months ago
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I totally agree with this. :-)

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Charizard 8.5 and Arcanine 8, wtf? how???.

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Yep, doesn't make any sense. Arcanine recieved a small nerf, but at this page it was taken like a massive nerf. The opposite of what happened with Blastoise for example.

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Best overall type fire stats are for flareon now. Only hp is lower than arcanine's.

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by TTT 8 years 9 months ago

I agree with some of your analysis.
Arcanine is probably hurt by the buff to Waters and the nerf to grasses. What he's weak to is more likely to be in gyms and more likely to be ready to attack, while simultaneously what he's strong against is less likely to be there.Although it doesn't make sense why he's below Charizard unless Wing Attack has some good use...

Blastoise should be farther down, although perhaps he's buffered by the similar nerf to grass types.

Gyarados and Omastar are also probably a typing thing - Gyarados is double weak to electric when the super common Jolteon got an even bigger buff than Gyarados did. Omastar is double weak to grass when all grass types other than the fairly rare Venusaur took huge nerfs. Almost everyone will have a strong Jolteon ready to attack Gyarados with while many may not power up a grass 'mon for Omastar (I know I've abandoned powering up my Vileplume/Victreebell and don't have a Venusaur yet). Also unless you have legacy moves Gyarados is probably not as great on attack (not sure, I don't have Gyarados or Omastar yet).

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Gyarados with Bite and pump is a attacking beast. Since bite is faster then water pump you can get hydropump charged way faster then on a Vaporeaon. Not as efficient on potions though.

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I agree with you, but i think this rate is because of his place in the meta, not because of his own strenght. Most of his counters got a lot strong (vaporeon, omastar, rhydon, golem, gyarados, even kabutops) so it's not a crazy thought, even though i think his rate should be higher anyway xD.

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I agree with a lot of this, but you're wrong when it comes to Omastar.

Omastar is a defensive monster with the legacy moveset Rock Throw/Rock Slide. It's only with that moveset he's 9.5. Obtaining a 9.5 Omastar is impossible today, but the rating reflects his maximum defensive potential.

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I know Omastar's legacy moveset was really great defensively. But c'mon, you can't rate a 'mon just for a move it doesn't exist anymore.

With this buff Omastar (with gun/pump) became the new Vaporeon's poor man. He is the new Blastoise now. With the advantage of having Rock type too, which will double resist fire and also resist normal type attacks.

Despite all this, he still should be 9, not 9.5. Gyarados got a inmense offensive boost, he is now a Tier 1 attacker, so it doesn't make any sense to rate him with 9.

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