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From Pokemon Go to the console games

I know that most had experience with the console games before playing Pokemon Go. Back then, my family never owned a Nintendo console and after becoming addicted to Pokemon Go, I set up a Game Boy emulator on my computer to play Pokemon Red. Is there a forum or other community for Pokemon Go players picking up the console games for the first time?

Some thoughts (I have gotten as far as beating Sabrina):
1. In Pokemon Go, Diglett is next to useless, but in Pokemon Red, it is among the best, though somewhat limited in PP before it gets Earthquake.
2. Bulbasaur and Geodude are very powerful early-game, but gradually drop off as Water-types become more common and Gastly offers immunity to Normal-types.
3. Many guides say that Water-types are very important late-game, but why is Gyarados not rated as highly as Squirtle, Staryu, Tentacool or Vaporeon despite its vastly superior stats and movepool? I also do not understand why Clefable and Nidoran are more highly regarded than Snorlax.
4. Item storage is very limited. If you buy all the TMs at the Celadon Department Store, you will face a severe space crunch for the rest of the game!

Asked by hkn8 years 2 months ago
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In next generations the problem with item storage has been solved.
Also in Pokemon Red the faster the pokemon the greater the possibility to land a critical hit, so Aerodactyl is one of the best Pokemon.
Gyarados learns only Hydro Pump if i am not wrong and aside Pokemon Go, Stab is +50% and Super Effective is damage x2 so is pretty usefull to know many attacks of its type, that's why Gyarados isnt that good.

P.S Sorry if my english is bad, not a native speaker.

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To number 3:

In the pokémon games, attack types are divided into three. Physical, Special and Status. Physical attacks deal damage based on the users attack stat and the receivers defense stat. Special attacks deal damage based on the users special attack and the receivers special defense, while Status attacks do not deal damage, but instead create other effects (status conditions, field effects, stat bonuses etc.).

Gyarados is a pokémon with high attack stat and quite low special attack. Before generation IV, the moves type decided whether it was Physical or Special. Water moves were Special.

This means that Gyarados had a high attack stat, but no good moves to back it up.

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  1. Speed stat works very different in Pokémon GO compared to the main series. While the CP formula makes speed the least important stat in GO, it is arguably the most important one in the main series, especially in gen. 1 (Red/Blue/Yellow), where critical hits (double damage) was directly related to speed.
    Dugtrio has one of the highest speed stats in RBY, and learns most of its moves through level up, which means that you don't have to waste valuable, one-time-use TMs on him.
  2. Venusaur offers one of the fastest Sleep Powder in the game, and being asleep in gen. 1 is just terrible. Venusaur also gets access to the Toxic + Leech Seed combo, which uses the same counter in gen.1, and therefore damafe for both attack increases every turn.
    Golem is also a very good pkmn in gen.1, despite its terrible typing. Normal attack was very common back then, with both Body Slam and Hyper Beam being available to almost every Pokémon. Explosion is also a huge selling point in competitive battling.
  3. As explained by "supermagga", Water moves are special moves and Gyarados is mainly a physical attacker. Starmie is very fast, and has access to great moves like Thunder Wave and Blizzard. She's also part Psychic type, which was insanely powerful during gen. 1.
    Squirtle ia good mainly because it has great matchup against the majority of important battle throughout the game.
    Tentacool is very common, easy to find at high levels, and it's very high special stat offers the strongest Surf in the game.
    Vaporeon is bulky, learns useable moves for in-game, and can be acquired quite early if you didn't choose Squirtle.

Clefable is available very early, able to learn a lot of moves (needs TMs, but can learn most of them, so won't hinder team mates).
Nidoran can be evolved to its final stage before the second gym. Learns Earthquake by level-up. Nidoqueen gets Body Slam without TM. Nidoking gets Horn Drill. When using X-Accuracy in gen.1, all attacks hits 100% of the time, which makes Horn Drill very good.
I don't know who told you Snorlax is useless, but I don't agree. It's is slow, which means it will always get hit first, but it's easy to find, learns lots of different attacks included Amnesia. Amnisia boosts Special stat by 100% in gen. 1, which makes your special attacks do huge damage, as well as making you very bulky on the special side.

  1. There is no way around this one. Can't buy bigger storage like in P-GO. Luckily you rarely need all those stuff at the same time, and your PC can store everything for you, even Key Items you can't delete (like Lift Key, Silph Scope and Old Rod)

Hope this helps.

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Thanks; that was very helpful! TMs, status moves and other differences give battling in the console games much more depth compared to Pokemon Go gym battles.

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I wouldn't say some of those pokemon are good, but speed does play a very important role in those games. In addition to that, level difference makes some pokemon seem a lot stronger. It is easy to have a pokemon 10 or 20 levels higher than those you are fighting in the gyms, which can make their speed/damage/def/hps on par with better pokemon and then you add the type advantage on top of that. You will notice at equal levels those pokemon arent nearly as good. None of this stuff really matters in Go. The difference in levels in minimal, and more dependent on the base stats of a particular pokemon.

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Pokémon in Pokémon Go doesn't rely on their base stat at all, they just have to have a decent Hp stat, low special and high physical stats or vice verca, and preferably 0 speed.

Look at Umbreon compared to Vapreon. Same BST in the main series, even same distribution. In GO, Vaporeon sits more than 1000cp higher than Umbreon.

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What I mean is a Bulbasaur is a Bulbasaur. In the other games a level 40 Bulbasaur is significantly better than a level 20 one. All of its stats are better, especially speed. In Go the difference is minimal, with the only noticable difference in hp. In terms of damage and ability, my 2600 cp Vaporeon doesn't out perform my 1800 cp Vaporeon by much.

In the other games my team can simply clean house because my pokemon are 20 levels higher.

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Lets put it this way. In the other games if I ask if it is worth it to bring my Vaporeon from level 30 to 38, the answer is duh. In Go, if I ask the same question, the answer is do you need it for gym placement?

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