GamePress

STAB + double type advantage damage + double resistance

I evolved a Crobat AS/AC and this made me ask another question in this section. But I have a follow up question if you guys know of other examples of matchups where the attacker deals STAB damage + double type advantage damage (1.56x) on both quick and charge move while having double resistance (0.64x) as for example

crobat AS/AC vs Heracross C/CC

maybe this is a brain breaker

Asked by Stormbeard998 years 1 month ago
Report

Answers

by JHVS 8 years 1 month ago

FC/XS Scizor versus grass moves Eggy. As a kicker he also resists Psychic moves.

Up
0
Down

On this same note, Butterfree with double bug moves vs Eggy with grass moves. Even against psychic Eggys my 2 1200 cp Butterfree make quick work of Eggys, they are normally my go to pokemon for him.

Up
0
Down

So much love for Crobat eh.

Up
0
Down

For a moment i believed my little crobat was unique in something (which is a spectacular thought), but with scissor thats also not true.

Up
0
Down

It's still a pretty damn rare occurance but it will be less of one as further Gens come out.

Up
0
Down

Charizard (assuming he has fire-type moves) will be double effective vs. Scizor, while his own typing provides double resistance to bug moves. If Scizor uses steel moves, there's just single resistance.

Same should be true of Moltres as well, but he's not currently available.

Up
0
Down

true, not counting moltres this makes 3 matchups;
Crobat vs Heracross
Scizzor vs Exeggutor
Charizard vs Scizzor

Up
0
Down

I suppose Charizard vs. Forretress is almost there. It's quick moves are both bug-type, so that will always get double-resisted, but his charge moves are Heavy Slam (regular resist), Earthquake (neutral), and Rock Tomb (double effective).

Up
0
Down

Omastar with water moves vs. Magcargo with fire moves

Up
0
Down

Charizard vs parasect

Up
0
Down

by haltsy 8 years 1 month ago

Similar to your original example:
Xatu AS/AA (and Natu P/DP) vs Heracross C/CC

Up
0
Down

by impi 8 years 1 month ago

How about Noctowl WA/SA against Heracross

Up
0
Down

nogo heracross fight moves do normal damage against noctowl.

Up
0
Down

Update;
Crobat vs Heracross
Butterfree vs Exeggutor
Scizzor vs Exeggutor
Charizard vs Scizzor
Charizard vs Parasect
Omastar(nyte) vs Magcargo
X(N)atu vs Heracross

any more?

Up
0
Down

Double rock moves vs Charizard. Legacy Omastar comes to mind. Could be other mons that fit the bill.

Up
0
Down

Kabutops fits the typing but neither he nor Omanyte have a rock quick move anymore. I'm not sure any other attackers fit the double resist requirements due to rock and water typing.

Up
0
Down

accordingly to this site kabutops never had rock quick move but maybe in a future move shuffle it is possible.

Up
0
Down

God I hope so. I quit evolving them on purpose long ago. Why in the hell does he only have access to complete shit movesets?!? He's rare with great typing but rendered a POS on purpose

Up
0
Down

I actually wanted a FC/SE kabutops :(
FC allows SE to fire off hella fast
But yes ever since the update i've been holding on kabuto candies
lol @ pos, so true

Up
0
Down

because there has to be a difference between omanyte and kabuto family, both have same typing and similar stats. Hopefully they don't give Kabutops water gun and create another inferior vaporeon.

Up
0
Down

Except neither get rock moves now. There is no real difference between them as they both are sub par attackers now outclassed by mons without their type advantage. Niantic made them rare then pulled their teeth. It's depressing as I wanted any reason at all to power up either one.

Up
0
Down

Full-Bug Beedrill vs. Full-Grass Exeggutor

Up
0
Down

Couple more:

Full-Flying Skarmory vs. Full-Bug or Bug/Grass Parasect

And

Full-Electric Magneton vs. Full-Flying Mantine

Fun topic. Has gotten me thinking! :)

Up
0
Down

I know, as far as i know there is no list (or app or something that helps) of this and it is also useful to know this information if you see a defender with this severe weakness.

Up
0
Down

Update;
Crobat vs Heracross
Butterfree vs Exeggutor
Scizzor vs Exeggutor
Charizard vs Scizzor
Charizard vs Parasect
Omastar(nyte) vs Magcargo
Omastar(nyte) (legacy) vs Charizard
X(N)atu vs Heracross
Beedril vs Exeggutor
Skarmory vs Parasect
Magneton(mite) vs Mantine

Above 10 instances now, problem is i 'll never know the list is complete

Up
0
Down

I know I'm a little late but I would like to mention that Kingdra double resists fire and water. (S)he can tear through many fire mons with WG/HP

Up
0
Down

Good catch. The one that came to mind for me was Camerupt but I mixed up my gens. Thanks for the save!

Up
0
Down

Scyther double resists grass ground and fighting. Im sure there is at least one scenario where he fits with double flying and another with double bug.

Eggy and Heracross come to mind since they've been mentioned. If we dig I bet there's another.

Up
0
Down

Scyther (full bug) vs Egg (full grass), similar as butter free and Lediba/Ledian

Scyther (full Flying) vs Heracross (full fight)

are valid i believe

Up
0
Down

Double rock Macargo is valid against Charizard too. I'm getting too into this. I believe he can crush a number of other fliers.

Edit: noltres and hooh. So that doesn't count.

Up
0
Down

I know I'm late but I found another. Get ready for the hella obscure that you will never see in a gym (but if you do it will be an effective prestige).

Bubble/beam Corsola vs. Dual fire Magcargo

Up
0
Down