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Is my Bite/Outrage Gyarados that bad?

I hear a lot of hate towards outrage for attacking and hear things such as "dragon tail is 2x what bite is"... With the recent water event I got enough Magikarp for Gyarados, which I never thought I would be able to do. My biome is very low on the Magikarp population. Anyway, I finally got enough and evolved, but got that as a moveset and immediately raised to my personal max (I am lvl 27). So far in gyms he is doing great (maybe I just have bad pokemon), pretty much outdoing my other pokemon in most battles.

Just how bad is that set? My main gym attackers usually are Rhydon, Golem, Arcanine, Piloswine, Jolteon, Allakazam, Vaporeon, Exeggutor... so maybe I just don't see it, but seems alright to me.

Asked by Mindrivet8 years ago
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Not bad at all, Bite hits almost as hard as DT, and since none of them benefit from STAB, the only advantage that DT have is the SE against Dragonite and Bite charges faster, so that is no "worse" when it comes to quick attacks, just playing style.

And Outrage is not as good as HP but do SE against Dragonite, so is not bad too. You have a good mon, don't worry.

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Well, in addition to the SE damage into Dragons, Dragon Tail is also superior against Tyranitar, who resists Bite. Also, DT generates energy quicker than Bite, so there's also that.

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The lack of STAB and mismatching types of both moves make that set subpar on attack. It has no matchup where it is preferred over another pokemon.

On defence, bite is a joke compared to dragon tail.

I got the same moveset on my gyarados and opted not to power him up. Better luck next time.

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To be fair, gyarados has no machup where there's no better options, regardles of the moveset, against dragons I'd prefer a lapras or dragonite, against Psychic, I'd rather have a Tyranitar. So as long as the moveset has a high DPS, it's good for Gyarados. The one thing to note is when Mega Evolutions come (in a few years), B/C will be the prefered moveset because both moves get STAB

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my 100% went bite/DP I leveled him anyway and he serves well enough against dragonite and outrage is supposed to be better then Dragon pulse.

Sometimes i think people obsess to much over what is optimal versus what job you employ something for.

(like WTF is lapras with watergun/hydropump considered a good move for)

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No, it's not that bad. It's a Gyarados, and it sounds like they are hard for you to come by, so be proud of him and have fun using him.

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