So I reported this guy
I reported this guy to Niantic for explicit cheating and indirect promotion of fake gps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQL80hgkLT4
I got an automatic response. The guy read my message on live telling him I was going to report and he call me a "tard" because he was entertaining the channel. So if cheating for entertaining the channel then I'm reporting for ruin his entertainment then.. Also he was being donated.. for Christ sake!
I could fight a cheater.. IRL.. I hate them so much.
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It would also make your gym collect 0, 1 if you're fortunate.
"Take it down w/ friends and make life hard on them"
- taking it down with friends might work. until you walk away and they spoof over to the gym when you're gone (no gym action) and they regain control.
It is not inconvenient for spoofers; yes it will require them to take it down (and build it back up if they have multiple accounts) but that inconvenience does not compare to the resources required on the legitmate player's end to compensate for this action: gas and travel expenses, time expenses (traveling to the destination), etc.
I fortunately live in an area where spoofing is not much of an issue, and even more so I am on mystic which so happens to be the dominant team in my area. With that being said, I would rather not be the situation that you describe as "all the gyms around [you are] Blissey" where spoofers are present AND on a different team, as I am not willing to pay for coins and I want stardust.
lol that's prob why they're working on a gym rework. Unless spoofers have unlimited supply of max revives both resources get depleted. Also I have 6 gyms w/ in 3-4 mins walking distance so no I don't drive for gyms.
Also if someone else has better ideas I'm all ears? Not understanding why ppl want to respond to my comments and not the question itself since everyone has a diff situation.
- It's much more convenient for spoofers to acquire resources (movement of the joystick) vs legitimately acquiring them (walking/waiting for stops to respawn). Granted, in areas where pokestops are plentiful, this difference becomes minimized.
- And very true. I was responding to the part of your first comment "I simply disregard cheaters no way to win against them"; I was providing a case for an individual (such as the OP, potentially) where spoofers can impact the enjoyment of the game to a greater extent than spoofers do to either me or you. You are very correct that there is "no way to win against them" but I believe the OP is voicing that from their situation, it is frustrating and affects the pleasure derived from investing time (and potentially money as well) into this game
- Also my guess is that OP is voicing frustration of spoofers as the "topic" of this "QUESTION" (if it were one lol)
I just happened to read the first comment, saw a counterview, and voiced that.
To answer your second part-the part about a different idea, I too am hoping that the gym rework will be able to tackle the spoofing issue at least to some extent. With the current gym set-up (ten trainers to a gym, where individuals with the ability to spoof their gps have unlimited access to gyms in terms of location), I do not see a way to combat this problem. I believe, as you said, changes need to be made in order for a change to occur
I disagree with you on this. I'm living in a sub urban city with 6 gyms and 12 Pokemon stops. I don't know anyone else in this area because I feel I'm the only one left playing this game clean.
What am I supposed to do against L10 Blissey which takes me litteraly 2 hours to take down, only to see it back L10 in 1 hour again. Besides, my Machamp all came with those steel set moves which also greatly helps in taking down Blissey.
In my opinion there are only 2 options #1 quit the game until Niantic fixes this issue. I don't think it's so fun a game you have to worry about dealing w/ cheaters yourself. #2 Find a way to deal w/ the spoofers or go out of your area for coins. Spending 2 hours for 10 coins sounds completely pointless. Your quickest way to taking them down in your case is a mass evolve of high level Eevees and hope for some FS/ OH Flareons. Tbh anything w/ FS or w/ OH should be fine in putting a dent in her.
ember fireblast also works reasonable well i have both e/fb and fs/oh and in practice they feel little differrent. espeon with c/fs also works pretty well and an egg with solar beam. but Blissey is not fun to fight like all gym battles in p/go it is tedious. and 10 blisseys would be the height of tedium.
and agree in a city the difference between a spoofer and a legitamate player might be minimal; outside of a city esp if you are in a minority team it seriously impacts on the game it might take days to recoup the resources to take down a tower were the spoofer can get their resources (for the 1-3 mons that might get put in) back in a few minutes.
Sorry dor those downvotes, not from me. I have been considering those options and lately I have been biking several hours to find gyms way out of my area to put in my Pokemon. I can get my daily coins now, but it's not optimal as I would like to conquer my area.
I will probably write another report, wait for a month and quit if nothing happened. You're right that it's not worth the effort to fight against cheaters.
I don't spoof/cheat and I currently have guys in 19 gyms. Why? I like domination. Every day I go battle gyms. It is what I find fun. I spend all my dust on gym defenders, and cool ones to. I don't spend any dust on attackers. I can beat a 2800 vaporeon with a 1150CP Parasect. Why spend dust on attackers?
A 1150 Vaporeon can take down a 2900CP Rhydon. My 1200 Dewgong can take down a 3000+CP Dragonite.
I like showing off my defenders so why not get as many gyms as possible?
Yeah you are right but if you have 6 high CP you will take down more enemies than 6 low CP. Low CP is used for prestige even tough you can actually kill 1 pokemon. 2.. I doubt. So yes you can win but it will take more time to get that gym down.
I tought at first it was all about attackers. It depends on where you play. Here there's a battle between blue and red. And the gyms I use to visit change EVERYDAY.. only the very strong gyms prevals but ... I was in a lvl 10 gym and it was taken down in 7 days. I think it was my absolute record. The only guys that take gym for long time here are cheaters. "Germancetee" which is RED and 1 guy from blue which I forget the nick also have big mons and he controlls one area...
So in general that sucks... I try to take down or take place in 4-5 gyms and get coins FAST before someone take it down. It should be usually less than 30 minutes or you loose 1 gym..
Did u know Niantic only block 3rd apps and google block spoofing just wait for it, you should give extra report like what apps he/she use... niantic only interesting about the third party apps... that the only ways... niantic do care losing they comunity but they know, if this keep going... they just broke their own game... no need region pokemon anymore... just spoof and trade... still broken game...(sorry bad ingislih wakaka)
Well, I also reported this type of channel before. The Pokemon company might get their crew of lawyers involved eventually. But if the guy called you Tard you may report the insult to youtube and might be a more effective way of closing his channel (just saying, I have really no idea how that works)