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Blissey Strategy

I was lucky enough to be in a desert biome for the last event and am finishing up powering all of my Blisseys to level 30 (I already have maxed two high-IV ones).

Unfortunately thanks to RNG all my highest IV candidates got less-than-ideal movesets while 3 of the level 30 Chanseys I evolved got Dazzling Gleam. I know I am lucky to have so many Blisseys to choose from, but given my position, would you power for moveset or for CP given that her max CP can sometimes already be too low for gyms? I have 250 candies remaining and zero dust as I poured it all into the Blisseys once Gen II hit. I have three middling IV candidates with P/DG or Z/DG; they are currently at level 30 and I am unsure whether or not I should try to max them as well.

I also have 3 hatched Chanseys with worth stats than these, I was also considering holding off until the gym update. Thanks for the help and apologies for the (humble)brag!!

Asked by ambigula8 years 1 month ago
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In my opinion there is no such thing as a less than ideal moveset for Blissey since your only worry is the Ivs to stick it in the gym. I would worry about bringing your 2 primary Blisseys above 3k if anything. (Right now your 2 Blisseys act almost like a shield to Gyarados, Dragonite, and Tyranitar in my area. I can only assume about your situation? Is 3k considered a top tier or near the lower parts of the gym? Since you live in a desert biome I assume high IV level Rhydon are abundant.

Other than that most wouldn't advise this but please diversify your portfolio. What if Niantic decides to nerf her? Thats a lot of wasted dust and candies. Please invest in some Dragonites, Tyranitar, and Snorlax (more versatile than Blissey not as great defensively but not a slouch an incredible attacking wise)..

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Haha don't worry I have multiple 3k Dnites and a few Lax, 5+ Gyarados and a bunch of Rhydons... my immediate area is desert biome but you can drive less than a half hour to water biomes so everyone is pretty set on Gary and Dnite and gyms usually start around 2.8-3k. I'm just wondering whether to pump low-IV, best moves Blisseys or to invest in the worst moves but better IVs ones. I get your thought about just investing in the highest IV ones and that does make sense to me. And I will make sure to pump my two primary Blisseys as soon as they come out of their gyms! They have been in there a while and are almost maxed anyway (I'm level 34).

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If cp is important in you area, that is something you need to take into consideration. But if you are looking for the best defender, go with one with 15s in stamina and defense, or as close to that as you can get. There is a perfect level 36 one around here and it rolls up wins by itself...it times people out...I literally had to power up a pokemon just to deal with the thing (a ES/SoB Eggy) because it was timing out my kamikaze teams. This particular Blissey has HB, and if you start swiping too early, it will time you out. That would be my advice if you are looking for the best defender.

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Quick Question: Do you have a DB or DT Dragonite, C/CC Heracross or Machamp, C/DP Machamp, or B/SE Tyranitar? There's a local 3100 Blissey never had an issue w/ it since Nite steamrolls through it.

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Those pokemon aren't exactly easy to get...Heracross isn't around here. I evolved a new Machamp and got bullet punch, my new Tyranitar got iron tail/crunch.

I did finally get a DT/O Dragonite. Before that I did use 2 Dragonite with DB. Both were 27xx cp, one with DC and one with HB. My one with DC only has a 6 in attack though.

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My 2586 CP one is 8/15/15 with Zen Headbutt/Dazzling Geam... unfortunately it has very low max CP with that combination, but it's incredibly tough to take down

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'15s in stamina and defense'...I think you mean '15s in attack and 'defense'.
Stamina makes very little difference for Blissey.

For CP at level 30. (stats given as Stamina/Attack/Defence)

15/15/15 2759CP
14/15/15 2756CP
15/14/15 2740CP
15/15/14 2753CP

So, in conlusion, at level 30 for Blissey
1 IV to Attack is worth 19CP
1 IV to Defence is worth 6CP
1 IV to Stamina is worth 2-3CP

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No, I meant stamina. Yes, attack will give you higher cp, but those few extra points in health can time people out.

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At level 30-40, the difference between 0 stamina IV and 15 stamina IV is only 11hp...and that is with the biggest difference in stamina IV possible.

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Don't be a dick and stop ruining everyones fun by putting blisseys in gyms?

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Blissey is the only fun in a gym...the rest just roll over and play dead as soon as you click on the gym.

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by Data10 8 years 1 month ago

I'm also in a desert biome and have a similar Blissey lineup. I stopped powering up about where you did, so I can heal them with a revive + hyper. Being in a desert biome, I occasionally catch Chanseys, so my strategy is to take my time and hold out until I find one that has the potential to reach an excellent CP and is caught at a reasonably high level rather than evolve ones that won't reach as high CP as I 'd like. Note that I didn't say anything about top IV because Chanseys with the potential to reach the highest CP are often not the ones with the highest IV %. For example, a 66.7% IV !5/!5/0 will reach 2945 CP at level 35, while a 93.3% 12/15/15 doesn't have as much potential for a top CP and would reach 2926 at level 35.

Regarding moveset, Blisseys are great with any moveset... far better than any other defender. However, because it is such a good defender, Blissey is one of the few defenders where moveset can make a notable difference to attackers. This makes moveset really matter instead of just having a high CP to hold a good gym postion, like with other mons. If it were me, I'd invest my dust/candy in the best moveset Blisseys, and keep other less ideal moveset Blisseys less powered up. I find it's good to have them at a variety of CP, as there are times I want to be towards the bottom of the tower where it will deter more attackers and help the gym stand longer, instead of going to the top. Having worse movesets towards the bottom of the gym also makes it easier for your teammates to prestige, if it gets knocked to the bottom position..

The only movesets I have powered up to 400 HP are ZH/DG and P/HB. I like the latter because it can double as an attacker (can beat more defenders in row than any other mon in game), as well as a defender, so I use it more often in gyms than other movesets. One could make a case for favoring ZH/HB as well for special situations like gyms with more casual players who don't have Machamp/Tyranitar/Dragonite; players with phone lag; and the players suffering from the dodge bug (it's a lot worse with the latest update).

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Thanks for your in-depth reply. Leveling some of my lower IV ZH/DG ones to 2800, 2750 etc seems like a good way to go as it'll give me flexibility but wont horribly strain resources. I have a high-IV P/HB currently at level 30 that I wasn't going to take any higher but I think I will max her as well after reading your points. Much appreciated!

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