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OK, now what do I with my DB/DP?

So before the dragonite update on gp that seems to have been done to put to rest one of the biggest controversies post update, many of us scrambling and posting about what value existed for and what to do with the existing nites in our stacks. I myself had gotten some solid advice when I posted about what to do with my DB/DP nite... however....

Now that the move set has been downgraded even further, is it worth spending a 100 or candies to get it to about level 30 ( 89iv 1808 cp)? or is it time to move on and try for the new move sets? I am sitting on 582 candies (loooooots of cold nights walking along the Chicago river) and have 4 90+ Dratinis... plenty of dust, too (as it turns out, there were lots of psyduck and poliwags there, too!)

Asked by kyuball8 years 2 months ago
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Well, if you wouldn't have any other dragonite and would be difficult for you get a decent one it would be worth it to invest candy and dust. If you are so well stocked up on everything you can give it a go and evolve 1-2 dragonite to get a better move set

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Yeah, that's a risk you have to deal with. That's what I'm saying above basically. He has enough candy to evolve 2 dragonite and still power up the best of them. It's up to him to decide.

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Is this your only DB Nite? (DP imo is a poor man's OT) If so yes I'd power it up. To me only 2/6 movesets are ideal for attacking ( DT/O & DT/H) others may disagree, but that's my interpretation of the new moves. You could power yours up and still have enough candy left over to evolve and power up the new Nite if you choose to do so. 1800 CP is neither a prestiger or an attacker rendering it useless. Best of luck and I hope all that hardwork pays off on a DT/O Nite!

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by 9comon 8 years 2 months ago

GP's moveset ranking basically looks like any other spreadsheet, although DB/DC is ranked lower everywhere else.
According to this spreadsheet (trainer tips): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iXCn4liP8_bWqCqai5jC6M6VqV6vm6tRcT0QOsy72_U/htmlview?usp=drive_web&sle=true
1. DT/OR
2. DT/H
3. SW/OR
4. DT/HB
...

I would power it up - DB/DC and DB/DP is still the best offensively imo

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take GP's list with a grain of salt. In reality, dragonite really doesn't have any bad movesets and it really depends what you want to use it for.

DB/DP isn't the "optimal" defensive moveset, but its still more annoying that DB/HB. Any 3000 dragonite is still more fierce than a 3000 gyarados...although they both have double weakness...so...

for attacking, its not bad. It really depends how you battle.

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by Puppi 8 years 2 months ago

In my opinion, for you to do better (attacking) than your DB/DP with a new evolve, you would have to get DT/O. And you know what the odds are of that... odds are you're gonna be disappointed.

If it was mine, that DB/DP would be getting powered up without question.

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Mine as well. But I don't have 500 candies as he does. So, I don't have a choice. He does

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I would not do anything at this point, gym rebalance is the next big update comming during Apr-Jun trimester, what is the point of evolving a Dragonite or power up the ones you already have if we don't even know how the new gym mechanics will affect existing movesets?

You have a nice amount of candies and dust, I am not even close to you (176 candies and 650k dust), but I have been saving them just because of new gym and move changes. I have a maxed out DB/DP Dragonite at 3386 CP, and another DB/HB at 3285, with those two beasts I can take down any gym, no matter what they have on it, I have no rush to evolve another one or power up the one I have at lower level.

My advice is if you already have some good Dragonite a part from the one you said don't do anything, just wait until new gym rebalance that is coming.

With that being said if you think that getting another 125 candies in one or two months is something you can do "easily", then I would evolve another one just to try if you got lucky.

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Good advice, but at what point do you stop waiting and start doing? It seems like you can be waiting forever in this game.

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Well, for me at least I am gonna wait for the changes I know are coming, we can't be prepared for some changes that have been done without noticing us, like when they added all this new moves and changing their durations, eps, dps, etc.

But if I know that something is coming for sure, why don't wait for it? For me the only exceptions are mon that always will be "top tier" on defense, like Blissey or Snorlax, they are not gonna change that for sure, but imagine that on next update they add some kind of battle effects, and Dragon Pulse also slows the enemy a part from the damage you make, it could change from being the third better charge move to the first in a matter of seconds, why don't wait and see what happens?

A major gym update is coming on the following months, not a minor one, so I expect a LOT of things to be different in battles on the near future, I personally don't think I can recover 150k or 200k dust and all the candies to power up/evolve another Dragonite in a month or two, that's why I prefer to wait.

The case will be different if it was my first ever Dragonite, but with two of them around 3300CP, there is no point for me to "waste" those resources.

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I can see where you're coming from, but my take is slightly different. For me, I saved up a really precious 100% dratini, waiting for Gen 2 to arrive. I never expected that DB/DC would become legacy and so I have lost the chance of getting that 100% DB/DC dragonite.

I should have instead, evolved it in the hope of getting a DB/DC - and now I will never ever know. And even if I didn't get a DB/DC I would have had a 50% chance of getting a DB-something dragonite (@100% IV), which would have been valuable in itself.

What the Gen 2 patch taught me is -- your assets are better off deployed fully 'in the field'; and you ought to live for the moment right here right now. Rebalances can and will occur BUT dratini can always be farmed, dust can always be grinded. Buddies can be walked to hell and back again. However, once you have lost an opportunity to get a GG legacy mon, you cannot go back in time to recover that chance.

For this reason, gym rebalance or whatever, I'm fully evolving all my Larvitar, Dratini and Mareep candy as and when they accumulate.

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If you can do it yes, but for me each Dratini candy is more than precious, on the last 3 weeks I have catched one Dratini, and since gen2 released only have catched one Larvitar and one Mareep, none of them with good IV's.

I am walking Larvitar like crazy and have 50 candies at this point but I would not evolve him until I find one with higher than 90%IV, same with Mareep. Anything can happen at any time for sure, but you have to take into consideration not only movesets and iv, also rarity of each mon for you.

And the actual movesets will last at least the same of the previous ones, you always have time to power up a DB/DP Dragonite if you already have him, and you will have time to get one with DT/O even after the new gym rebalance almost for sure, don't think they are gonna remove movesets in a month, but I think that they are gonna "change" their effects or add new ones with status effects, like paralize, poison, sleep, etc.

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Waiting may be sensible, but I don't think I will be playing for the next rebalance if I have to stay still. Doing nothing but waiting would drive me to quit playing the game...

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If rebalance come and next few weeks they announce again that they gonna rework again, are you still gonna wait? I think you will have to wait forever.

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One thing to consider and this doesnt mean power up or not to power up your DB/DP is PVP. When PVP comes out things may change yet again. Also makes sense that newer MS's are gonna usually be better in most ways than older MS's.

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Haha I thought we had a deal on your dust and candies!

But as to your question itself, I think you've got enough resources to power up your DB/DP and then roll the dice thrice (ie, after you power up your DB/DP, evolve 3 of your 90%+ dratinis) and hope for the best. Keep your fingers crossed.

Your chances that one of your 3 dratinis get DT/O or DT/H are decent. Not fantastic but decent.

If the game really punishes you with SW/HB x3 then you know, it's prolly time to hang back, cool down on the game and wait for Niantic to allow us to reroll movesets.

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