About Blissey moveset
Hi, I'm new here and want to share knowledge. There's no much info about the Best Tank regarding moveset. People say it's Pund and Hyperbeam because of Stab but I have a Blissey 1360 88.9% 11-15-14 with Zen Headbutt and Psychic (both PSY moves).
If we take into account that Blissey is weak vs Fighting pokemon (then Fighting pokemons will be used against him) and we see the weaknesses table Fighting pokemons are 2x weak to Psychic. Does this means those movesets are in fact very good?
Also for dodging Hyperbeam is the easiest to dodge and it seems Dazzling Dream the hardwer, perhaps Psychic is intermedium?
Also Blissey is made for taking damage, not doing it. Looking forward to see you toughts.
Answers
Pound/HB is probably the worst moveset for Blissey. Preliminary numbers and what not suggest that Zen Headbutt + Dazzling Gleam is the best defense moveset for Blissey, but anything with Zen Headbutt is pretty good. I'd say ZH-Psychic is pretty much on par with Hyper Beam, the former lacks STAB but is a bit trickier to dodge and covers fighting type weakness. Ultimately there aren't any outright terrible movesets for Blissey, but ZH-DG is optimal
For a fact, I can tell you that I have been getting my *** kicked by Zen Headbutt + Dazzling Gleam. But yesterday I evolved two Chanseys to Blisseys and got Zen Headbutt + Dazzling Gleam for one and Pound + Dazzling Gleam for the other. So now I am doing the *** kicking, though I don't get to watch, unfortunately.
Zen headbutt and psychic is generally considered the second worst moveset for Blissey. Psychic moves are super effective against fighting, but this only ups the damage the same amount as STAB would, and doesn't work for all Pokemon that might be fighting it. Like hyperbeam, psychic is a single bar charged move, but doesn't do nearly as much damage as hyperbeam. Hyperbeam gives more warning, but this means that an opponent may be spending a long time preparing to dodge for it rather than attacking. Dazzling gleam is a two bar charge move and each of its bars does nearly as much as psychic, so it's the best. Zen headbutt is better than pound for a quick move, but psychic is the worst charged move.
Even with this moveset, I'd still say go ahead and power up your Blissey. I have one with the same moveset, and I chose to power it up.
I personally think that zen hb/dazzling gleam are the best, but there is room for debate. If we compare the numbers, pound is actually slightly better, even if we assume SE against fighting types. I don't have the numbers sitting in front of me, but the difference is damage is very small, so for a few single attacks, there is not much difference. However, over the course of 90 seconds, pound actually does 27.5 more damage. How important this is, is debatable. My issue with Blissey was timing out, not the damage I was taking. However, that amount of damage can make or break a battle.
As far as the charge moves, they are all good, but for different reasons. Dazzling gleam is fired the most and is hard to time and dodge. Just based on that alone, I think DG is the best attack. Psychic is also good because it is generally SE against fighting types, and is also tricky to dodge, but doesn't fire as often as DG. Most people, including myself, think HB is a worthless defensive move, as it is easy to dodge. That being said, there is one very important thing to remember...you still take some damage even with a successful dodge, and HB deals out the most, by a lot. If we assume the battler has perfect dodging, HB is the best defensive move. But I know that not everyone is an expert at dodging, so the attack that hits more often is best, in Blissey's case, DG. And DG hits Dragonite SE...
You really can't go wrong with any moveset, but I think DG is the clear favorite. If you go by the numbers, pound is actually the better move, but both of my Blisseys have zen, and both got powered up without a second thought.
Hope this helps!
Zen Headbutt is actually the better defensive quick move, even in situations where Pound gets STAB. ZH has 3.87 defensive DPS, whereas Pound gets 2.69 before STAB (3.36 def DPS w/ STAB).
.51 DPS over the course of a 90 second fight is an extra 45 damage, which is pretty significant - especially with mons like Machamp.
Pound only has better DPS when using a Blissey to attack. Zen headbutt is better for a defending Blissey, because it does more damage per hit. This is what matters for a defending Blissey, since it attacks so slowly. You can see the defenesive DPS for moves when you look at the specific move; for pound it is 2.69 and for zen headbutt 3.87.
Some people say they think the AI has changed recently, but when I fight I see it attacking with about the same frequency as before. I don't think that any AI changes should have made a drastic difference in the way defensive DPS is calculated. It definitely still attacks way slower than a player. The old defensive DPS caulculations should be about right.
Pound is trash. I don't dodge with Machamp and I murder her with enough health (dodging charge moves) Zen Headbutt always gives me problems so I'll say Zen Headbutt/Dazzling gleam. HB so easy to dodge but does chip away a good amount of health.
(Update: In terms of defense. In attacking, Pound/Hyper Beam the way to go) I guess me not being specific enough got 2 thumbs down)
Hyper-beam pushers are liars.
A lie needs two aspects
(1) a wrong piece of information
(2) the knowlegde, that it is wrong.
Now let us regard HB on Blissey.
(1) is fullfilled for following cases
(a) Blissey is Defender and
(b) Attacker dodges.
(1) is not fulfilled, when (a) or (b) are wrong. In this case, HB is best charged attack on Blissey.
(2) is only fulfilled, if the situation is clearly specified (1a?) (1b?), and if wrong infomation is given knowing it is wrong.
Taking all this in to account, Your sentence
Hyper-beam pushers are liars
is wrong. But i would not say it is a lie, because i assume, you do not know better.
