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Moveset vs IV

We all know that a good IV pokemon is only as good as it's moveset but I am wondering to which extend...

Let me explain;
I have 2 nidoqueens
One that have "Bite" and "Earthquake" with a 91% IV
The other have " poisonjab" and " sludge wave" with a 96% IV

Since stardust is pretty hard to come by I am wondering if i should max out the one that have an optimal moveset as attack and a lower IV or the one that have an dexent moveset with a better IV.

Thanks for your opinions!

Asked by MarcoBoul8 years 5 months ago
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91%

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Easy choice, the 91%

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by Impala 8 years 5 months ago

None of them if you lack dust. Nidoqueen is a quite weak defender du to water weakness

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Ok so maybe i was a bit cheap on my amount of stardust... I do posess avout 250K do i can spare a little...

But why do you guys take the 91% do easily?
Is it cause the difference among stat is really slim?

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Really, Nidoqueen is only an "ok" pokemon. Dont use your dust before you have a strong team of 10-12 Tier 1/1,5 defensives pokemons plus some good offensives ones. I'm sure you have better pokemons to invest dust on like vaporeon or Exeggutor

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If you really want a good Nidoqueen, the second one is way better, better IV, better for defense (bite sucks on defense and you power up mainly pokemons for defens purpose) and still usefull against grass/fairy type in attack.

Earthquake, while powerfull, is only effective against uncommon pokemons in gyms and ineffective against several common ones : dragonite, gyarados, big grasses

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second this. I mostly just power up a pokemon right before I put it in a gym, to bump it above pokemon already in the gym. Powering up attackers can be useful, but I save most of my stardust for defenders.

For me, a Nidoqueen with poison jab would be a lot better. Even if you are not putting it in a gym, poison jab and sludge wave will be a good Cleffable or Jigglypuff counter, which do show up occasionally in gyms.

What occasions are you going to want to use a Nidoqueen with bite and earthquake? I already have attackers with two ground type moves to take on electric and fire pokemon.

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by Lanair 8 years 5 months ago

Regarding your IV question, the difference between 91% IV and 96% IV is simply negligible. Here's a quick example: Nidoqueen's maximum attack value is 184. Each IV stat can go up to a max of 15. Dividing 15 by 184 = 0.08. So, if you have a Nidoqueen with a 15 attack IV, it will have 8% more attack power than a Nidoqueen with a 0 attack IV. You can do this math for the defense and stamina stats too; since the three stats for Nidoqueen have about the same max value, that means a 15/15/15 Nidoqueen is still overall only about 8% better than a 0/0/0 Nidoqueen. In your case, the difference between a 91% IV and 96% IV Nidoqueen comes out to be 0.4% difference overall. No way you'll notice a 0.4% difference in performance! :-)

That said, there's another issue here: Nidoqueen isn't very useful. I made the mistake of wasting stardust leveling up my Nidoqueen and I regret it to this day; I wish I had invested in another good defending Vaporeon instead.

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Agreed. Best not to waste the stardust unless you really have an affinity towards nidoqueen. In which case, by all means power up nidoqueen, but the difference in IV is so negligible, you'd take move set all day. In most cases, move set is the more important attribute here. Given that poison type really isnt a very useful type in general, ground type moves are at least future proofed for the 2nd gen tyranitar, rock and dark type.... assuming we'll be able to use our 1st gen pokemon against 2nd gen at first anyway.

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Same here. I made a mistake to fully power up a Nidoking with sub optimal moveset.

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