Which Snorlax to power up? IV and CP or Moveset?
I have two snorlax:
Snorlax lvl 4 - CP 344 - IV 73-75% (don't know yet but has A15) - ZH/BS
Snorlax lvl 15 - CP 1417 - IV 93 (A12D15S15)- ZH/EQ
If you had to choose one to power up, which one would you choose?
PS: At lvl 30, IV73-75Snorlax will have 2819-2823 CP and needs 116 candies and 118k stardust to get that lvl.
At lvl 30, IV93Snorlax will have 2834 CP and needs 86 candies and 96k stardust to get that level.
I will wait a bit (dont have the candies yet) but I think that powering the lvl 4 is a better option.
Answers
The site you are on has a brilliant tool for computing CP and HP for any hypothetical pokemon, and any additional power up level (including the dust/candy required) and for seeing what they will evolve to: Click IV calculator at the top and then the "CP Calc" tab. You can also enter the stats (CP, HP, dust and evaluation) through the IV calculator first to get your own pokemon and then click the little green "Calc CP" button to the right of the %IVs to transfer that to the CP calculator
"200 candies are 1000 km.. "... I hear you :-) Hope for another halloween event. I actually chose to walk my wild-caught low CP Snorlax (with average IVs) last Halloween and for weeks afterwards after hoping (for months) to catch a better one, but then giving up. Here are two observations. (1) Its incredibly satisfying doing this progressively - to begin with every 5kms (well it was only 1.25 during the event) you get a candy and thats enough to see him go up by 45+ CP. (2) After stopping powering him up at level 30 he sits above CP 2700 and remains my best gym defender: no regrets! Even if you find a more powered up/better IV one later, there is only 1/6 chance of getting the optimal move set. I personally find Snorlax with ZH/BS the hardest to get past in gyms (BS is one of the hardest moves to dodge in the whole game, despite not being as devastating as HB, which is actually easy to dodge)
Yep. The next x2 candy event should be again in Halloween (I bet Niantic will repeat events).
I have a lvl 30 L/BS and a lvl 30 ZH/HB (both 75-78% IV ~ 2800 CP). So another lvl 30 (7X% IV) with ZH/BS will fit perfect.
But imagine Niantic remove STAB after powering up my Snorlax, I'll kill myself haha
oo ill agree that its one of the most annoying moves to get past in a gym- but i just have one very serious question- no sarcasm its to make a point: say you are attacking a gym- ill make up an example. its a level 8 and the snorlax is 3rd from top. you already beat all pokemon before the snorlax- and you face a snorlax with bodyslam- its tough. you wish you were fighting a snorlax with a worse moveset- no argument there BUT - are you suddenly giving up on the gym? is that enough to make you stop attacking it...or is that gym still going down (serious question. im actually curious if people would stop their attack strictly due the moveset on a defender)- ill imagine no- in which case you see my point (ultimately the potential cp and placement in a gym is what matters more. id rather be highest spot in a level 10 with a bad moveset than 7th from top with a good moveset. by the time they get to my snorlax...the gym is basically done). its annoying to attack but youre still gonna end up beating it - if not then you prob just dont attack the gym to start off. (when you see the original lineup you just the cp and pokemon. you dont know the iv and moveset - so if you chose to attack id guess you were able to beat it and i doubt the moveset alone will be the reason the gym doesnt fall)
Personally I'd start work on the BS version, because at CP344 its pretty useless otherwise (but are you going to transfer it for 1 candy?). By the time you get it to CP1200 it will be a handy tool for prestiging (the CP 1417 is already a bit on the high CP side to be optimal) and BS is a great move for prestiging because its cooldown is fast enough that it gives you time to dodge even fast moves on your opponent (yes, even a Snorlax needs to dodge against high CP opponents). In the meantime, fingers crossed and you may find something even better once you need to make the decision whether to power it up further.
p.s. regardless of IVs, a CP2700+ Snorlax with ZH/BS is a fantastic defender, so you will never regret powering it up, even if you find a better one later - its hard to have too many high CP Snorlax!
is this a serious question? you outlined on your own why option 2 is better in every categorie (other than moveset i guess)- 93% vs 75%...already at a higher cp (youd save candy and dust and be able to reach a much higher potential cp- with the pokemon able to break 3k it actually does make a difference how great the IVs are- not to get carried away. but only because you mentioned level30- where im from most gyms have pokemon ranging from 2800-2900s...some 2950 and higher. every 20cp makes that much of a diff in terms of placement in a gym.
I think its important to look at it from a different perspective. one many seem to not fully understand. - of course bodyslam is a much better defensive moveset than earthquake- but lets put things into context. say your snorlax is now at 2850 and its 4rth highest in a gym level10. when somebody who is thinking about attacking the gym looks through the roster- they dont know the iv or the moveset of your snorlax. they just see a 2850 snorlax and think "yeh i can take this" or "woah baby im staying clear". i promise you the moveset on your snorlax wont be what ultimately stops that gym from going down. if theyre able to beat a 2850 snorlax theyre beating you even if you have a 100% iv bodyslam snorlax. ill use myself as an example- of course its nice attacking a snorlax and seeing that it has say lick earthquake...but its not as if i would suddenly just give up on the gym now that I noticed the move lol. -
placement within a high level gym is really what matters. and to add to that- if you want to start making a point that youre not worried about gym placement given you wont be throwing it in gyms over level5 - that gym isnt gonna last im sorry to tell you. the gyms that last and hold strong are level10s. and people will usually decide to attack it or avoid it based on what they see it- for example if i see a a level 10 filled with gyarados/dragonites that gym is dropping in no time. if its got liek 4-5+ big 2800+ snorlaxes- i might avoid. realize sometimes people who avoid are very able to still beat it they just dont want to spend the time. snorlax is slow to kill and a gym deterrent. once the attack begins you better believe that gym is dropping and the moveset on your snorlax isnt going to be the reason it stands. theyre either able to beat the gym or not going into the battle.
if it was flipped - as in the lower cp snorlax had the higher iv (93%) then it might be a legit question. there is a huge diff beteen 93% and 75 when you start to hit level 33+ - ive made all snorlax gyms with friends and 1. the iv will definitely affect placement in that gym- at times somebody only brings a gym from level10 to level 7 and just walks away. so in that case you want to be towards the top. and this is a minor minor thing to take into account but given everything i mentioned- think how much harder it is for your team to prestige into a bodyslam snorlax than an earthquake...it only makes it that much harder on your team (unless you bubble up the gym and then drop it in). sorry for the rant but this is just another absurd question. do you realize how rare snorlax candies are? even if you walk...unless you plan to hike across the country...its gonna take time to gather candy - and the 32 candy diff between the two to get them to level 30 is ALOT- enough to powerup another snorlax! that you might have by that time- or enough to take your level30 snorlax to level 33. and break 3k - dont transfer the little guy but please dont choose that one to powerup strictly because it has bodyslam...like common now
i dont think you understand what my point really was - do you mind me asking what trainer level you are? of course a bodyslam snorlax is better - on paper. but unless you want to screenshot as a collectors item my point was thinking realisticly. will it actualy defend better? will the moveset on your snorlax stop the level10 gym from being defeated? if somebody is attacking a gym with your snorlax ...they are going to beat your snorlax im sorry to awaken you to this. otherwise they wont choose to attack it. (other than the times kids try to just make a small dent in gyms)- my argument is that placement in a gym (as in - are you highest spot- or you near the bottom) is far more imp than anything else. dont switch up the question here...nobody is asking you to battle your two snorlaxes (as you progess in the game im sure youll catch/hatch even more snorlaxes) but powering one up from basically the start is lunacy. thats such a waste of dust and candy (the only exception id make is if it was 100%)- but in your case your lower cp is also a lower IV! by all means dont take the advice. its just my opinion. nobody is forcing you to do what i suggested im simply offering a perspective alot of people seem to lack...just ask yourself your goal. do you want to hold gyms? or have a nice collection- both are fair questions btw...eveyrbody plays the game for a diff reason. i personally love the gym element and therefor dont stress so much about moveset (on defense)- offense moveset clearly matters ..diff convo though
