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Who will be on your team against this beast? Is it Zapdos and dragons all the way?

Asked by gluglumaster7 years 8 months ago

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Hydropump Kingdra and Gyrados might be good options.

Omastar (WG+RS)
Golem (RT+SE)
Golem (RT+SE)
Vaporeon (WG+HP)
Vaporeon (WG+AT)
Dragonite (DT+O)

Regardless of move set Ho-oH

Only the last one makes sense, if I have to say.

So you'd prefer to go for dps > survivability, I can see that. Just hope it's an extrasensory/fire blast then!

Just answering the question of topic starter ?

For those of you who want to get a sense of how fighting Ho-Oh feel like, just consider that it is as Bulky as Lugia but a lot more damage will be dealt to you.

If it is a Steel Wing + Solar Beam Ho-oh, then rock types are off the table. Dodging isn't realistic since dodge bug exists in Raid Battle: if the non-dodged damage would have killed you and you dodge, you'll get it for sure. A non-dodged Solar Beam from Ho-Oh kills any Golem/Omastar. Tyranitar might stand a chance, but some sereral other Steel Wings will finish you off soon.
The best option is Zapdos. Second best is Hydro Pump Gary. Dragonites works well, too. Other options are then far from optimal. You may choose Vape. She can survive one non-dodged Solar Beam (hence possibly no dodge bug) while resisting Steel Wing. But still the Solar Beam is deadly to her. Jolteon is a less bulky Zapdos but still OK since he also resists Steel Wing.
If it is a Extrasensory + Solar Beam Ho-Oh, then Tyranitar is on the table. I'm also looking at Houndoom with Double Dark Moves. It'll be useful again when raiding Mew(too) and Celebi in the future.

Very thorough! Didn't realize how much of a type advantage houndoom has against Ho-Oh's movepool despite Gavin no SE attacks into Ho-Oh. If Vape is a girl and Jolteon is a boy, what is Flareon in your eyes?

That, is a good question!

(I have no idea whether I should call Flareon a he or she)

Nice answer, I guess if anyone still has a SE machamp he could be useful despite NVE quick moves.

An interesting proposition: Would wing attack or air slash plus dragon claw charizard be an option?

Resists steel wing and double resist solar beam while doing neutral damage. Would take the solar beam much better than gyarados but no Stab SE.

Hmmm an interesting option. I had not thought of that. Many options here would not get it done in my area but that's interesting.

Would Moltres do it better though?

It will be a less Dragonite.

Well well we'll... Looks like my HP Garys have some use now!
I'll go with 3 dragon (dbdc dtor and dth) and 3 gary (BHP BHP DTHP)

Define "now". This could be a year away for all we know right?

You guys listed all the good answers :3
Other possibilities include

Wild Charge Arcanine (with bite or snarl)
HP rock/water/electric + Zap Cannon Porygon2

With this level of rare candy it's not far fetched for me to say I'll have 4 Zapados for him. The other stuff I have too. If folks aren't in an incredible raid area he's going to be incredibly tough.

I'm not sure that as a group when that's the case we won't have to run high DPS stuff and die and come back. Or the timer will kill us all.

A lot of these things that resist HP just won't get the job done in limited groups. A pack of Lugia and Kingdras isn't going to cut it in my area. We are a small group and we cannot rely on others to kill it for us because we are 20 deep like other places. We are lucky to have 10 trainers at a raid so layup options with junk DPS won't work and those would die too; resisting be dammed. We would all just get nothing.

Yeah it will ultimately come down to, like you said, dps+time vs group size. I have a suspicion the majority of the downvotes on this thread are those sitting far on either side of the fence, not willing to accept that it will depend on the situation

Lugia, especially with Hydropump.
Hopefully Zapdos.

If I had to use what I have now, I'd try Tyranitar, 2x Golem, 2xGyarados, and Dragonite.

Nidoqueen PJ/SE can at least use one rock-move
on him without taking super effective damage.
I'm too stupid to run pokebattler myself.
How does she compare?

Just gotta watch for Extrasensory.

Ho-Oh's moves make it an awkward attacker, but equally awkward to be attacking into it.

Lol. This thread is hilarious.

Y'all downvote the guy that will run optimal counters and die to gift you this mon?

Because you aren't earning it with this trash that "survives" you're suggesting. With the dodge bug they won't even perform better for the most part. I guess if 20 are in every raid you do then yes, maybe you should peek outside of the box. If you have limited trainers at a raid this thread is straight up full of terrible advice unless your plan is to have another trainer gift a mon go you.

If your raid groups are 20, fine.

If not you're an ass for running some of this trash.

Other folks will run optimal counters and die and come back to gift you this mon.