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Yes, about power up advices

Considering this factors

A) Dust is hard to get
B) Good IV along with Good Moveset is even harder

I have:
1) Vaporeon 802 WG/HP 95%
2) Heracross 992 C/CC 91%
3) Starmie 1073 WG/HP 93%

Lvl 27. 170k Dust. Those are my best pokemon with LOW CP.

Recently I evolved around 4-5 good pokemon with Good IV but movesets were Trash. I believe those pokemons will make me "waste" a lof of dust but I think at least 1) and 2) should be priority for me. I'm not getting any other good pokemon. Not even from hatches.

What do you think? they are low but in the end they will be machines wich is not easy to find. I use to find wild Heracross 2000 all weekends but horrible IV so perhaps I can wait a bit more. Definitely I never saw a Wild Vaporeon, never....

Asked by fragsman8 years 1 month ago
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Heracross. You will need it against Tyranitar, Blissey, Snorlax, so three of the most important gym defenders.

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I just acquired an 82 IV Hera with C/CC he is 820 CP and I am level 30. Do you think I should power him up or wait a little? Gym rebalancing?

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by razvan 8 years 1 month ago

Do it with the Vape, he can be also a defender and IV matters in that case.
Wait a bit with Hera since it will be only an attacker so IV not so relevant, so a 2k wild one with good moveset can be good enough.
Use Starmie for prestiging into rhydons.

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Wait a bit with Hera since it will be only an attacker so IV not so relevant, so a 2k wild one with good moveset can be good enough.

I disagree - it is likely to have more than one blissey, snorlax or tyranitar in a gym. So it is likely to need more then one Heracross.

The OP is really lucky - he has got the best moveset with high IVs, on the most desired attacker in the game - what the hell should he be waiting for?

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Just because I think Hp vape is more valuable :). But from my early ecperience, if I were him, I will up them 3 until 0 dust :).
To this day I still don't have a HP starmie, after more than 15 evolves and wild ones.

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I would do Heracross for reason Bruno said. Eevees are typically easy to find for most. You'll likely find a high CP one you can evolve to a Vape later. You can just power up the vape you have now slowly to bring him up to prestiging level to put him to use.

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Don't waste dust and candies on mons with bad movesets. You are only level 27. Keep with it and eventually you will get better ones.

The really good IV mons but with bad movesets - save them. Every now and then Niantic messes with the moves and you never know when one will change or become good again. But don't spend dust on them. You will find so many more good mons as you level up.

Use the Starmie as a prestiger. Keep him around 1100cp or so. He hits hard.

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Vaporeon or Heracross.

I wouldn't even consider powering a Starmie.
Even for prestiging she isn't the best option.

If you are in need of a water type to deal with Rhydon and Tyranitar, go with Vaporeon.
If you need a fighter to deal with Snorlax, Blissey and Tyranitar, go with Heracross.

Keep in mind that Vaporeon is the best water type while Heracross is the second best fighter.
So, if you really want to go for the best and Machops are common in your biome, or maybe there's a nest nearby, it's better to get a C/DP Machamp and powering him up.

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So, if you really want to go for the best and Machops are common in your biome, or maybe there's a nest nearby, it's better to get a C/DP Machamp and powering him up.

...with a 1/6 chance and a need of 200 candy when very lucky, more then 1000 candy when a bit unlucky.
Anyway, with the actual gym scene, more then one fighting attacker is called for.

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Don't invest any dust. Chances are you'll find better Pokemon as you level up and you'll want to spend that dust on your stronger mons. I regret spending dust on any of mine before level 30.

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Don't invest any dust. Chances are you'll find better Pokemon as you level up and you'll want to spend that dust on your stronger mons.

A pokemon is good, when IVs and moveset are good. The OP has two great pokemon [vaporeon, heracross] with really good ivs and perfect moveset.
What for exactly should he wait?
Why should he be banned from gym-play until he is adult (30)?

This makes no sense imo.

I regret spending dust on any of mine before level 30

Me too, but only for bad-iv or bad-moveset-pokemon i invested in, not knowing better. This does not apply to OP's situation.

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I hear what you're saying. I'm relatively conservative, saving 500k dust in case I find that special mon that makes me want to commit. It's a personal decision and I personally wouldn't invest since it's likely they'll hatch a great 89%+ eevee and get a vap with AT. Then it's only about 65k dust to level up to 30. If heracross is rare where they are, then they'll need to start walking their buddy, and it will take forever.

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And OP posted that they find 2000+ heracros. Just keep one of those for attacking. No investment needed.

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Heracross is not that rare here. I have around 120 candy but IV and moveset .. I have to say it's great..

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For me water pulse vape that grew each lvl with me since around lvl 10 fits the criteria of a special mon :). and until I got an AT one around lvl 22-23 was, only with water gun, my main attacker :)

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I agree on Starmie. I don't think I should waste dust that's why I put on 3rd place.

Vaporeon is really a Beast. I have one with aqua tail and 97% it has a lot of endurance for a fight.

I tested Heracross 2000cp in fight but 15/0/13 IV so doens't know how to judge. The thing that I like is that I have no other fighting pokemon, so it's a great chance to have it now. I was asked if I happen to encounter easily. I wouldn't say easily but I can manage to find Around 5 per weekend. Even tough most of them doesn't come with Fight Attack or they happen to be 71% IV max (from my experience). Min Heracross I got was 200 and max 2100.

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170k dust is enough for both of them.
What is your usual 6 attackers lineup? Do you have better than vape and heracross? Meaning Dragonite and matchamp with Counter respectivelly? Or perhaps Solar beam Exe?

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This is my TOP

Vaporeon 2559 97.8 Water Gun Aqua Tail
Espeon 2435 97.8 Zen Headbutt Futuresight
Exegguttor 2355 93.3 Confusion Solar Beam
Flareon 2328 88.9 Fire Spin Overheat
Jolteon 2214 97.8 Thunder Shock Thunder
Typhlosion 1951 97.8 Ember Overheat
Blissey 1741 88.9 Zen Headbutt Psychic

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Do Herscross now for Bruno's reasons.
Based on your team Vape can wait until you decide AT one is for gyms :).

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