Why do people rely on cp so much
Now I know I'll probably get a bunch of comments saying "Having a higher max cp Pokémon is better" and I understand that to a extent but when people say "You should only max Pokémon with cp above 2800" I disagree. Only because the fact of the matter is yes having a high cp Pokémon is intimidating and stronger of course but you can still take them out with a lower cp Pokémon.. Now I'm not saying every low max cp Pokémon is worth maxing out, but for ex. Slowbro is just as good as most of the top contenders (with certain movesets of course..) Also just because you would be lower in the gym doesn't mean much atleast in my area since gyms get taken out all day by different teams and there level 8 gyms or up sometimes lower but that's only cause the teams are both there fighting back and forth to hold the gym. Niantic didn't make the game so you just get the highest cp Pokémon it's about getting good ones and knowing your counter match ups for different Pokémon, whichever would be in the gym at that time. Also sometimes players will think just cause there's a low Pokémon in the gym it will be easy to take out and then get more then they bargained for... That's just my 2 cents on the situation since I'm seeing a lot of ppl saying it a lot lately, let me know what your opinion is or outlook on it.
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Well if you were in my area you would probably get taken out of those gyms in less than a day or two but I will agree with you on half of what you said can't blame people when it's built into the game. Watch this get downvoted cause I have some haters in my post when I'm just putting my opinion out there lul
Admit it your one out of the other 4 people that downvoted me right? And technically I'm not wrong at all you can play the game however you would like to play it so yes I agree to each his own and for you just to post a comment putting no feedback or opinion on my post shows how rude you are but I'm still being rude right?
CP is most important for defenders...and prestigers - for both of these, it is key.
For your attackers, it makes a fraction of 1% difference...so it is not really important.
With that said, why would you evolve a low IV mon, on the chance it gets a usable defensive moveset?
As for training up certain mons to max...the choice has to be made because no one has enough stardust to max everything that is useful - so you prioritise defenders.
I have evolved some average IV mons with high level, in hope of a good attacking moveset as a way to save stardust/candy.
And no, 'having a higher max CP Pokemon is better' is not always the case - see prestiging.
People rely on CP, because the whole game revolves around it.
First off the prestiging in gyms is more beneficial for you to use lower cp Pokémons so you can prestige the gym faster and get more exp. Also I mean you have to evolve Pokémon to get them in your pokedex, get stardust and get exp to level so why not see if you can get one that can be useable in gyms with a ideal moveset? and the game revolves around movesets and iv's not cp
Fist off...that is why concentrating on CP for your prestige team is important.
Note, I didn't say a prestige team has to have a high CP, I said that CP is important for prestige.
... so you are agreeing with me, but trying to make it sound like I needed correction. Huh?!!?
The game revolves around, in this order...
CP, Movesets, IV
Sure IV will dictate the CP when we are all level 40, but until then my high CP low IV good moveset mons, will do better in all areas than a lower level players perfect IV mons with ideal movesets.
My CP will always put me over them in a gym.
I can speak for my area of NYC when I say gyms aren't always taken all at once, often people knock out a few bottom pokemon and more get put in. This could just be alt accounts people are using to knock out the bottom pokes, but it directly enforces the highest-CP-stays-a-lot-longer phenomenon. If I put my perfect 2510 Lapras in any gym, it doesn't last more than 10 minutes due to this trend, and the general fact that people are more likely to THINK low CP means easy to kill, which is all that matters. Once an attacker decides to attack a gym, no amount of good defenders can save it.
In contrast to Lapras, I put my 3437 DB/DC (terrible defender) in a gym and it's held for about a week so far, which is long by NYC standards.
I agree but it depends on which perspective you see the thing. I also like my Slowbro and my Poliwrath with almost best defensive movesets. But what's the point if I can never put them in a gym? The 7-8 gyms in my city are most of the time taken by Mystic (my team) and 2/3 of them have mons with 2800cp+ and the other 1/3 with 2500cp at the bottom.
I wish I could put those mons but I simply can't.
People rely much on cp from a gym perspective, if you want extra coins and dust, you have to get high cp mons most of the time.
I wish I could see more gyms with solid defenders instead of Gyarados - Rhydons - Dragonites everywhere but most people don't think the same way.
Coming from a lvl 34 trainer who has won 2000+ battles, holds 10 gyms daily, cashing in 100 coins and 5000 dust...
Placement in gyms is key to securing your gauranteed daily coin and precious dust payout.
This is Important for anyone who does not want to shell out endless amounts of money for incubators....and everyone knows eggs are key for the best and rarest mons, esp defenders and candy for them. It's a circular game of chase the best Mons and to power them up.
High CP = more time in gyms = more coins and dust. To add to that everyone wants to top their local gyms. This is the current end game.
It's sad but true, and I wish there was a different meta to the gym scene but unfortunately this is just how it is unless they change it.
Let's see what duelling brings and am looking forward to that!
Understandable thank you for your honest opinion not even tryna be rude to people on this post but whatever.. I just wish some of them saw the game from another perspective but at the end of the day people will play the game how they would want to play it regardless and I totally agree with your point on the incubators but I definitely feel like that's a separate topic alone that needs to be addressed with niantic they need to figure out a better solution 1 incubator doesn't help if your whole list is full and you hatch one hit a pokestop and just get another especially if your a low level and can't handle gyms yet.
You get how "free" games work right? Niantic wants us to spend money. We all downloaded this game for free, receive free updates, etc. but the people putting in the work doing all that behind the scenes ain't workin' for free. I decided a while back how much I would have paid for this game and buy coins accordingly. I think it's been worth at least 5 bucks. :)
I mean most game updates are free so I don't know where your going with that and if it were actually a free to play game there wouldn't be any type of p2p involved and ok so I guess we should just stop getting poke balls from stops and buy them from the store to help niantic? Like cmon man you sound ignorant with your whole comment but I'm the one still being rude right?
