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Which Pokémon to F-TM?

Guys, im thinking about to FTM one of these Pokémon:

- 100% Eggy 2792cp ZH/SoB (into a full grass beast);
- 93.3% Snorlax 3170cp ZH/BS (into a great bulk generalist attacker);
- 77.8% Dragonite 3171cp SW/DC (into a great generalist...i have a 3400+ db/dc and a 3300+ db/dp already);
- 86.7% Alakazam 2712cp PC/P (C/P for more damage);
- 86.7 Espeon 2521cp ZH/FS (C/FS and max him out maybe).

I almost did it to Snorlax cuz i rarely use him as a defender since i use to keep only one Gym and with my Blissey 3029cp ZH/DG. Its my pref. mon. But whats ur opinion? what would you do?.

Thanks.

Asked by TheFocke7 years 6 months ago
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Dragonite because his moveset is least desired. Steel wing is terrible and if i didn't read wrong, that charged move was Dragon Claw, which is ok.

You can also do it on espeon but espeon is generally only used in machamp solos, against gyms it has little to no use unless they are stupid enough to use machamp or hariyama as a defender.

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Eggy: (edit) double grass Eggy is useful
Snorlax: no
Dragonite: yes, plus best improvement of all these
Alakazam: no
Espeon: yes

I would also TM them in that order.

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Why would you TM Eggy to Extrasensory? It's just much better with BS, especially now that Kyogre is a tier 5.

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Never mind, I just had a look at my damage spreadsheet and Extrasensory seems like it's not great in a neutral scenario where BS would be SE. I remembered otherwise. Either way, I would definitely support having a Bullet Seed Exegguttor.

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Checking on PokeBattler, it depends a lot on level (breakpoints) and weather.

Confusion is in the lead with Extrasensory close behind at level 30.
Bullet Seed pulls ahead of both at level 35.
Confusion catches up with Bullet Seed by level 40.

Extrasensory has its only breakpoint at level 28.
Bullet Seed has its last breakpoint at level 34.5.
Confusion has breakpoints at levels 28 and 38.

Sunny weather causes a significant boost to Bullet Seed at any level.

I'm also surprised to Seed Bomb is a lot closer to Solar Beam than I previously remember. Probably worth it to fill out my team with my defensive C/Se Exeggutors.

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1. Eggy to BS first if you have 2 FTM to use, because changing to ES is almost no improvement. It has the most to gain with being one of the premier Kyogre counters for the next month.
2. Dragonite to DT. Safe option if you only have 1 FTM. Big improvement, but not that necessary in the short run since you have 2 double dragon Dragonites already.

The others are not worth using a TM on unless you have a lot of them to spare. Snorlax is not a great generalist, it's not even a good generalist, only barely able to beat a level 30 Blissey in time. Alakazam is very reliant on dodging due to how squishy it is so PC is often desirable despite the slightly lower DPS. In Espeon's case C is a larger improvement but its DPS is good enough with ZH that TMing is unnecessary.

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Thanks guys. Since i had only one FTM now, i used it on the Dragonite, now with Dragon Tail/Dragon Claw moves.
Gl hf.

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- Exeggcutor would definitely be the next thing to FTM. FTMs are relatively common from raids now so you'll run into one soon, and Kyogre won't want anything to do with a double-grass monster at THAT CP.

- BS on a Snorlax makes a great defending choice, as is early dodge window and 3-bar action will catch many off-guard. However, I would stick with Hyper Beam on offense as its DPS is higher and Snorlax doesn't need to dodge with all of that bulk. The exception would be using a Snorlax as a raid anchor, but with all of the new legendaries there are far better options for this role.

- Dragonite is the obvious choice, as the DC legacy moveset is extremely desirable (In my opinion more so than Dragonbreath). Dragon Claw is nearly impossible to dodge on defense and is a very safe choice for raids.

- That Alakazam has a very high CP but you may want to change its legacy move to FS first. Psycho Cut may be a better option due to how frail Alakazam is - you'll want to be able to dodge and PC also has faster energy buildup making it easier to get off charged moves before its inevitable demise.

- The Espeon isn't a bad choice but the Exeggcutor is much more relevant currently and much closer to max as well. The Espeon hasn't been invested into as much yet. You also have the option with Espeon to find a weather-boosted one since Espeon is a guarenteed evolution after 10km of walking.

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Eggy is a good choice right now because BS/SoB is really good against HP Kyogre and TH Kyogre.

Dragonite is also a good choice, because SW kind of sucks, and DT is really awesome. Also, you didn't list any Dragonites with Outrage, might want to consider that, it's similar to but stronger than Dynamic Punch, but that's a different problem.

BS Snorlax is good, but still probably not the best choice for a single FTM.

I'd leave the 'Zam alone - PC doesn't do as much damage, but is really easy to dodge with, and 'Zam is so fragile that a few dodges can let you get a lot more damage out.

Espeon isn't a bad choice, but to me, not as good as Eggy or Dragonite.

YMMV

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