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Which one to power up for Machamp solo?

Hi,

I'd like to solo Machamp and I'm wondering which of these pokemons to power up and/or change movesets:

Lugia 12/15/15 - 93%
Extrasensory / Sky Attack

Lugia 13/15/12 - 89%
Dragon Tail / Hydro Pump

Lugia 14/13/11 - 84%
Dragon Tail / Hydro Pump

Lugia 12/12/13 - 82%
Dragon Tail / Future Sight

Alakazam 15/14/11 - 89%
Confusion / Future Sight

As you can see, none of the Lugia's are perfect. I'm wondering whether to just power up the Alakazam, or bother with changing movesets of any of the Lugias and power that up.

If you'd power up one Lugia, which one would you go for? Assuming you can change movesets to be Extrasensory / Futuresight.

Cheers,
Galder

Asked by lagd3r7 years 6 months ago
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Alakazam and Lugia have a different role in machamp raid. Lugia is an anchor and alakazam a glass cannon, so the decision which one to power should be based on whether you time out (power alakazam) or survivability (power Lugia). If you decide to power lugia I would go for the one with the higher atk if you can tm it.

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My problem is indeed time out, so I'll think about powering up the Alakazam first.

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by newton 7 years 6 months ago

None, 6 Xatus with FS

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Please explain why Xatus with FS would be so good in this context.

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Its SE and STAB against. Recently someone posted a video of a solo raid in which they won with 6 of them powered up

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If you are only going to power up one of these, and without knowing what the rest of your team looks like, the Alakazam is a pretty safe bet. That would be my first choice.

The ES/SA Lugia is viable against Machamp as is, if you power it up enough (level 33.5 for maximum ES damage against Machamp boss), and you could fast-TM the DT/FS one to get ES/FS. I would go with either of these as my second choice after the 'Zam.

It could potentially cost you a lot of TM's to get a good moveset against Machamp on either of the DT/HP Lugias, so if your goal is soloing Machamp, I'd leave those two out of consideration.

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by blchg 7 years 6 months ago

I powered up my 93% Lugia E/SA (with Charge TM) to 34xx now, it is very tanky reliable against Machamp!
I will bring it up to 38.5 first then to 40 if possible.
Alakazam you can find a better iv thru raids!

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Lugia's final Extrasensory breakpoint for Machamp is pretty low - even your lowest Attack IV Lugia hits it by level 33.5. As much as everyone tends to go for highest Attack Pokemon ALWAYS, I would go with the 93%. Lugia's role is primarily as an anchor, and that one is the only Lugia that you wouldn't have to TM either. 93% is pretty darn good.

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For some perspective, your 13 Attack Lugia will hit the ES breakpoint by level 32.5, and the 14 Attack Lugia by level 32. If you were to power your Machamp counter Lugia up to its Extrasensory breakpoint, then the cost of using one of the others instead of the 93% Lugia will be as follows:
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14 Attack Lugia. Saves 20 Candy, 19,000 Stardust.
x1 Fast TM, x? Charge TM
-5 Max HP, lower Defense.

13 Attack Lugia. Saves 14 Candy, 13,000 Stardust.
x1 Fast TM, x? Charge TM
-3 Max HP, lower Defense

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Another good choice would be to use the 93% one, and when you get a shot at Mewtoo, use it as a anchor there too, by CTMing Extrasensory to Dragon Tail. Dual purpose that way.
The two biggest holes in the mon coverage in the game now are the lack of a attacker with bug moves, and a good attacker with flying moves. Scizor and Scyther are all right, but won't compete with Dragonite, T-Tar, or the Legendaries.

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Make sure you have at least 4 Espeons/Alakazams with Future Sight. Then you can take your ES/SA Lugia to lvl 30. With a decent Dnite/Hu you will have no problem with any Machamp.

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by lagd3r 7 years 6 months ago

Thanks everyone for their quick answers, a lot of very useful info here. I'll reply individually.

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Just walk Some evolis with lvl 29/30 and you get Some reliable psych attacker

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