What to use against Mew2 with Focus Blast?
Ran up against a Focus Blast Mew2 twice now, and although we defeated him, I'd like to find better Pokémon to use. I did not use any T-tars (they got wrecked the first time) and someone at our Raid suggested Psychic types. Is that right?
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Gengar, although weak to psychic, did not take that much damage from Psycho cut. It receives .51x (ghost immunity to fighting) * .71x (poison resistance to fighting) = .36x damage from focus blasts; I dodged the majority which barely scraped him.
I would not recommend gengar against confusion variants though!
I hear Bite/Crunch Gyarados and any combination of Dragonite in general work well
Try avoiding using dragonite and gyarados. Even against FB.
At lvl 35 a Dragonite only surives longer than tyranitar in the PC/FB set up. C/FB: tyranitar survies 35s, dragonite 25s.
Tyranitar survies longer in ALL set ups except FC/FB, even C/FB due to resisting confusion. It has also higher DPS in all set ups.
Confusion is ALOT more damaging to your game than FB.
This also goes for Gyarados, survies C/FB for about30s
If it has FB you will probably be not selected any tyranitars but you won't know if it has PC or C.
Imo:
Just go with your regular team of tyranitars. If you are low on people and might faint all 6 put an anchor in the back. Blissey outperforms dragonite in this role and should give you a solid 60-75s extra. Confusion is nothing you really can do anything about without sacrificing a ton of damage output.
Does not affect the outcome. the survival time i used was based on style of using your CM as soon as you can and trying to dodge Mewtwo CM with realistic dodging chance (against FB = very high).
C/FB
survival time
Dodging charge moves:
D: 25s
T: 35s
No dodging at all
D: 16s
T: 25s
The problem is Confusion with 23DPS.
If we break down what is it that kills dragonite: 7 confusions and 1 focus blast.
7 confusions, each doing 19 damage = 133
1 focus blast dodged, 19 damage = 19.
The same 7 confusions against tyranitar:
7*9 = 63
The issue is not FB, it is confusion and dragonite not beeing able to resist it. Add to that not that great of a movset and tyranitar out performs it even against C/FB.
Same with Gyarados. Confusion hits so hard that if you don't resist it, once the charge move is fired you're out, doesn't help you resist it.
Imo what you want in prioritized order is:
1. Something that resists confusion
2. resists or take neutral damage from FB
3. Decent DPS output.
I've more or less given up on C/FB combo. Scizor survives only 25s (to much glass cannon from the start). houndoom 25s. One interesting observation is that Alakazam survives 22s. Almost as the others despite beeing known as a glass cannon. Shows the power of resisting confusion.
The only thing I can find is tyranitar due to it taking confusion well. Good typing, solid base stats. It's not optimal but nothing is.
That said I don't think dragonite or gyara is that bad. Maybe one in your team is enough in case it has PC and you want some balance? Just don't scram all your dragonites and gyaras due to FB, you lose a significant DPS and not that much increase of survival. Just my opinion though :).
Yes, that is correct. zero% charge meter is not that much of an effect though.
As you probably guessed correctly tyranitar will over time probably switch in and take a direct hit by FB or just miss a dodge. lowering its survival.
First in line survives:
D: 25s
T: 35s
It takes 42 D'nite to take it down at 847s.
Average: 1 dragonite survives 20s on average.
It takes 48Ts to take it down at 801s.
Average: 1 tyranitar survives 17s on average.
So over a long time scale dragonite survives longer. The question is how much time is needed.
As you thought (im guessing) there is a hidden break point where X dragonite survives longer than the same number of tyranitar.
I did count on it but didn't bother posting it since it shows the same conclusion and I didn't think somebody would figure out it is actually needed but since you thought of it:
at 303s dragonite has an average survival equal that of Tyranitar. After 303s dragonite lives longer, before 303 tyranitar lives longer.
180s raids: tyranitar lives longer.
Some of the numbers on the X and Y grid are wrong but the calculations are correct. The scales are also not correct but the numbers are and that what counts.
The dodge glitch is the same for dragonite and tyranitar. As the data above shows. Even if you don't get your dodges tyranitar is better.
Dodging charge moves:
D: 25s
T: 35s
No dodging at all
D: 16s
T: 25s
Dragonites get KO by
7 confusions, each doing 19 damage = 133
1 focus blast dodged, 19 damage = 19.
The same 7 confusions against tyranitar:
7*9 = 63
Gyarados with Bite as the quick move and either Hydro Pump or Crunch as the charged move. After that, I would go with Dragonite with Dragon Tail as the quick move and either Outrage or Hurricane as the charged moved. Physic types would still take a lot of damage and I would not recommend them unless you didn't have an army of Gyarados and Dragonites. I fought Mewtwo last night. Thankfully, he had Shadow Ball, so I bite into him with my Tyranitars. Oh, and I did catch him (89% IV; Confusion/Shadow Ball)
Use your usual team of TTars for damage. Basically assume that everything's gonna die by the time it focuses its blast.
However, for an anchor try a Lugia for the last 1-2 Pokemon carrying Dragon Tail/Sky Attack. It'll resist the quick moves and double resist the Focus Blast, and it's already high defense to boot. Plus, it carries respectable attack, unlike Blissey (who also gets wrecked by Focus Blast)
