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Just found this monster on a walk tonight (just got home actually)

Should I evolve it now and hope for non-Flareon? Or get a guaranteed Espeon?

I'm leaning towards Eeveelutions since Alakazam and Mewtwo can substitute Espeon. I REALLY don't want a Flareon though. Jolteon would actually be preferred for Blizzard Kyogre but that's only a one-in-three chance.

Asked by WaterYouWading47 years 2 months ago
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If it was mine, I’d save it for future gens.

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Weather boosted Eevees aren't too uncommon. I'll certainly save a perfect Eevee for that (as I've hatched one and caught two others since I find them often here), but I don't want to save this one for a year when the need (and potential benefits, such as additional Premier balls and saved potions) is present.

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Just wondering, why do you not want Flareon? I would actually say Flareon is now the best Eevee-lution, with Kyogre crushing Vaporeon.

After Gen 2, Vaporeon wasn't the best Eeveelution because of its stats and moves, but because of lack of competition. Now, all the Eeveelutions have been outclassed by legendaries. But Flareon performs the *closest* to the legendaries, with the same DPS but less bulk.
Edit: Considering the current state of EX raids, Espeon can be said to be on par with Flareon as an Eeveelution.

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Flareon would certainly seem like a good option, being that the weather in my area is often Clear.

However, it doesn't offer much meaningful coverage. It is pretty good for damage, but I have already invested the candies to max a Moltres and have enough candies to take an Entei to level 32. I already have a few Flareon and Arcanine in the 2.4-2.5k range, and I also just evolved a Blaziken at nearly 2.4k CP with Overheat.

The coverage that Fire-types offer would be against Celebi (Which should be covered by my Scizor, Mewtwo [SB], maxed TTars, and potentially Rayquaza), Regice (Covered by Machamp), and Registeel (Covered by Machamp and Groudon).

If you really want to look ahead, the Swords of Justice can all be countered by alternatives such as Machamp, Groudon, and Mewtwo/Espeon/Alakazam/Gardevoir.

Note that I am set to have a maxed Moltres and partially-powered Entei in addition to having a few level 30 fire-types already. Though I live somewhere with Clear weather, this also means that I can find high-level Fire Pokemon wild. Good electric-type can't really be found wild, and rain is very rare here (and I am unlikely to find a very good weather-boosted Feebas, Magikarp, or Mudkip). I also simply won't have the resources to power an army of Kyogres, and I would much prefer one or two maxed Kyogres to 6 partially-powered ones.

Electric-types are very important right now with the advent of Blizzard Kyogre, and I don't have more than one Raikou and Zapdos even partially powered up (theyre currently sitting at a mere level 30).

Water-type Pokemon will always be relevant, though, with the exception of Gyarados, they are eclipsed by a far greater margin than the rest of the Eeveelutions are (Whereas Flareon actually boasts higher Attack and Defense than poor Entei).

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Fire type is still fire type. SE > DPS

Don’t think many people can mass an army of 6 of each legendary and power them all up.
6 Kyogre from lvl 20–>35 = 750 rare candies...

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My point was that there aren't many things that are weak to fire and not weak to something else that has high damage too

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by plick 7 years 2 months ago

I have a kennel of wonder eevees for future gens, each of the current ones have been outclassed by legendaries, so waiting for good leafeon or sylveon apparently.

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The thing about legendaries is the fact that even though we can catch them in number we usually don't have the resources to power up more than one or two of each

Blizzard Kyogre requires a Jolteon army, for example.

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Very true.

Although the other rainy day, my poor level 35 wonder jolteon "attempted" to make a courageous chihuahua like appearance right as a blizzard kyogre fired his charge. Sadly, I think he wilted actually faster than he appeared. It was funny, but sad. I think I even heard a yelp.

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Jolteon can tank a Blizzard if it has almost perfect IVs and is maxed.

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Can you solo Machamp? If not, you should probably go with Espeon.

If you can already solo Machamp, I would just enjoy the evolution or save it.

I find that Level 5 raids are either small groups where we barely win and I get 3 balls. Or 12+ people are there and it doesn't matter what you bring.

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I've never tried but I'm sure I could. I only have 6 maxed Pokemon currently and one of those is a Mewtwo and the other is a Lugia. Also got a lv 35 Espeon and lots of high level Futuresight Alakazams.

I guess you're right. Wish me luck I'll post the result!

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You don't need anything else except the maxed Mewtwo and the Lugia to solo Machamp. But you won't need to dodge much if you bring the other psychic mons in too. I've done it with just 1 maxed Espeon and maxed Lugia.

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Result: Not the best nor the worst result.

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Better than Flareon at least (based on your previous comments)! Here's hoping that next time RNG blesses you with the Jolteon you've been wanting!
Also, based on what you said about your lineup for Machamp, you should be just fine. Have fun kicking some Machamp butt! ?

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Oh yeah I'm not worried at all about Machamp/Gengar/Alakazam even though I've yet to try them. At this point I usually use my raid passes on legends or TTars anyways.

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