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Viability of Kingdra

Given the information on the base stats and CP available out there, what are your thoughts on Kingdra's viability on gym defense and on offense?

I'm quite disappointed that its CP is not that high for gym defense, at 2424. Feels like it's already fated to be in the same state as Slowbro and Poliwrath.

Despite this, some people say its water and dragon typing is its greatest advantage in gym battling, which removes its weakness to grass and lightning and giving it resistance to fire, steel and water. Only two weaknesses are dragon and fairy.

Asked by LEADER GOTTI8 years 1 month ago
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If it gets a good defensive moveset, I think it will be like Slowbro and Poliwrath, but with slightly better typing for the upcoming meta.

In other words, a strong defender - but not much used due to low CP.

On offense, it could potentially become a good attacker into Vaporeon (with dual dragon moves) and into Steel Wing Dragonite (with either dual dragon moves or perhaps Blizzard).

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I think it'll most likely retain the move set given to Seadra. Speculating that it'll probably get twister as an added charge move, like Gyarados.

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Honestly I don't think Kingdra will be relevant that much...there are better attackers out there into Vaporeon and his CP is too low to be a relevant defender. If CP stay as predicted and if I would habe to guess I would say the first Pokemon with any relevance will probably be Ursaring at 2770 CP max and even that wouldn't be enough to stay in most gyms since at lvl 30 that equals to about 2400...could very well be that there will be the big four of gen 1 plus Despotar and Blissey being the dominators both on offense and defense if nothing changes.

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I honestly think that there aren't many Gen 2 Pokémon that can topple the meta game Gen 1 Pokémon (Dragonite, Snorlax, Rhydon, Gyarados and Vaporeon). Looks like only Tyranitar, Blissey, Donphan and Espeon have 3000+ plus CP. Hope the base stats and CP still increase when they release Gen 2.

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by Samuel 8 years 1 month ago

Kingdra will be an amazing attacker into Vaporeon and Dragonite given the right moveset.

As a defender it won't make too much of an impact into the current meta until Niantic releases a new CP calculation method or a new gym hierarchy system.

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Yeah. Hopefully a CP update in the near future could give Gen 2 Pokémon a fighting chance against the meta Gen 1. Wouldn't be that much fun if we were just collecting Gen 2 Pokémon without having much use for them in gym battling based on the meta game.

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I think his use will be mainly as attacker or prestiger, due to his low CP and HP I don't see standing in gyms, even Slowbro and Poliwrath at a similar CP are bettter in my personal opinion, they both get strong defensive moves (Bubble and Confusion), while Kingdra will probably have Water Gun or Dragon Breath as quick move and a lower HP pool.

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Low max CP and low base stamina makes it weak for gym defense, for both of the common definitions of gym defense, either the Pokemon's actual effectiveness in combat or ability to stay in the gym.

I think it'll be a versatile prestiger, due to it's double resistance to water and fire, and it'll probably get dragon breath as a quick move judging from seadra's moveset.

Typing is what makes prestigers CP efficient, because typing doesn't affect CP but directly affects combat e.g. STAB and resistances. Kingdra only has 150 stamina but against water or fire types that's effectively 234 stamina, but without the CP increase.

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