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TM use on Machamp or what ?

Hi there,

I have 2 charged TM's and 1 fast TM, still haven't used any TM. I have a lvl 20, 96% IV machamp with BP-CC, that is my priority mon for fast TM. My questions are:

1) would you use the fast TM on him ? or on another mon (for example, 91% lapras with watergun - icebeam) ? or just wait for another case ?
2) would you use a charged TM on him ? I just read the story of a poor guy living a machamp TM nightmare, don't really want to live it, but could someone give an approximate difference in power between the two charged moves ?
3) Would you use a charged TM on a 93% Scizor with Fury Cutter - Nightslash or is it just not worth it ?

Thanks in advance !

Asked by Gary7 years 11 months ago
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Well Lapras is not really in the meta right now. I feel machamp is the right choice for fast tm. As for the charge TM, it is safer to roll on the scizor as u might get HS on machamp. Both of scizor's other charge moves are stab

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Yes but I cannot believe Niantic will let the gym system as it is now. Sooner or later defensive mons will make their come back.
However I agree that it is safer not to use a charged TM on him for the moment :)

For scizor, won't it be too useless if he got the steel charged move ?

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by Gary 7 years 11 months ago

Other candidates for the fast TM are:
- lvl 30 rhydon 91% with RS/EQ
- lvl 30 snorlax 89% with Lick/bodyslam

And for a charged TM, I just thought about a lvl 20 84% snorlax that has lick and earthquake.

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I was thinking if Lick/Earthquake Snorlax is usable against a Gengar without Focus Blast. Snorlax is 'immune' to ghost moves, and both Lick and Earthquake are SE to Gengar.

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Yes
No
Yes but later

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I would TM him for sure since Machamp is a very important Pokémon on this meta, unless Machops are very common on ur area. I would only use a Fast TM tho cuz C/CC is enough.

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It is really uncommon in my area, this machamp is the first and only one I managed to get (lvl 32 player). I actually have 40 candies, so I won't even be able to max him out till lvl 30 right now, but still it would be a nice start I guess.

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by gibell 7 years 11 months ago

The result of using a fast TM is known, because there is only one other fast move (except for legacy fast moves). So basically it just depends on whether you want a C/CC Machamp or FB/IB Lapras.

I'd recommend using Charge TM's on mons with the worst move of the 3 possible. Like the Scizor, but again it depends on whether you really want a better Scizor or something else.

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Yes I know that, but what I wanted to ask is "is a machamp worth using a fast TM", especially knowing that we can get high IV machamps from raids.

Same is for scizor, do you think it would be useful or not ? I think a gamepress guide for optimal TM use would be interesting, even though it partially depends on the needs and mons of each and others

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by JamieF 7 years 11 months ago

I would use a fast TM on the Machamp and a charged on the Scizor.

From what I've read and been told theres about a 10% difference between DP and CC on the Machamp, but if you get HS you may aswell not bother using it so I wouldn't, I'm in exactly the same predicament as you with 2 98% BP\CC and I won't use a charged TM on it

As for Scizor, FC\XSc is just so ridiculously good against grass and psychic types that it is worth the gamble

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Thanks for the info! I think I will definitely use the fast TM on this Machamp.

If I use Scizor to counter psychic mons, isn't it better to keep the suboptimal nightslash instead of risking to get a useless iron head ?

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I would only use charge TM on Heavy slam Champs, and preferebly above lvl 25 (all above 75% iv acceptable). Why: Im not spending stardust on lvl 20 CC Champs, and dont want to invest TM on mons I dont use.

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