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I know a lot of these have been asked in the past but I´m struggling to choose a Kyogre to power up. Gave it about 100 rare candies so
I´m at about 160 candies to power 1 up. The candidates:

A) 2312CP (96%), 13A/15DEF/15HP, Waterfall-Hydro Pump
B) 2309CP (93%), 14/14/14, Waterfall/Thunder
C) 2306CP (91%), 15/14/12, Waterfall/Blizzard
D) 2879CP (89%), 15/12/13, Waterfall/Thunder (WEATHER BOOSTED)

I tend to favor 15 attack over better iv´s with less attack but being that Kyogre is pretty damn good, I dont know how much difference a 15 attack is to a 13 attack one. I´m probably between D and B. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!

Asked by wlad41417 years 5 months ago
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A because best IV but most importantly best moveset. D and B both have Thunder, not a strong move for Kyogre. Difference between 13 and 15 attack is negligible to superior charge move.

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I don´t mind using a TM to get Hydro Pump though. The only thing that bugs me about the 96% one is the 13 ATK, I just dont know how much of a difference there is between 13 and 15 attack.

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Honestly? Not much. In the vast majority of matchups the difference is maybe 1 damage with Hydro Pump. If the stars align exactly wrong, there'll be a matchup where Kyogre needs 14 or 15 attack at level 40 to reach a Waterfall breakpoint, but it's quite unlikely.

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Unless you're drowning in stardust and rare candies and starved for charge tm's, there's no reason to power up NYTHING BUT D.

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The answer here relies on a few different factors. First off, if you're low-ish on Stardust, or feel like 160 candies isn't enough, powering up D would be the way to go. It costs 31,000 dust and 28 candies to go from level 20 (non-boosted) to level 25 (boosted). This means that you could either power A, B, or C from Pokemon level 20 to 36.5, or your boosted one to Pokemon level 37.5, level and stardust permitting, and assuming you spend all your candy.
So, if you were to spend all 160 candy and oodles of stardust
to power up D to level 37.5, it would be 44CP higher than if you were to power up A to level 36.5 (3887CP vs 3843CP). At level 36.5, the difference would instead be 14CP in favor of A. If you were to spend less stardust and candy on powering these up, the difference would be even smaller.
All of that was math, and none of it was answer. For me, B and C are out of the question, as they both require a TM for Hydro Pump and will not reach the same CP as A. If you favor 15 attack, go with D. If you want the trophy of a powered up 96%, go with A. Ultimately, it is very unlikely you'll notice any actual difference in battling ability no matter which one you power up. My final suggestion would be my personal choice, A.

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Looks like he has the resources to me. What's more resources can be farmed. I say take A all the way and then take D to about level 30 (or nearest Break Point) to act as a wingman for A.

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yeah i´m alright on the resources. Hadnt thought about leveling 2 up. The only issue with that would be farming the rare candies.

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I've taken two Kyogre from level 25 to 30, so far. And my Groudons from level 20 (we don't have sunny this time of year) to 32 and from 20 to 27.Looking to farm more Rare Candy...

These are very useful Pokemon.

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by Puppi 7 years 5 months ago

It depends on what you value. Some people are more practical and reason that slightly better/worse IVs will only occasionally have an impact on a battle, so they go with the option that needs the least investment. Other people just want the best, cause you can't change IVs.

If we are talking about the best, you would choose C imo. But both A & B have plenty of appeal.

The stamina IV is the least important, close enough is good enough. I like anything over 10. The attack and defence IV will occasionally determine whether you rip through a defender faster than you thought, or the defenders rips through you faster than you thought (edit: the latter not so much with current battle mechanics, given that defenders don't spam their fast move). This is because of breakpoints, and it's more important for some mons than others, depending on stats and (fast) moves.

With Kyogres current fast move being 16 base power, it's not gonna make a huge difference if falls short of a breakpoint that robs him of 1 dmg per use. But that could change. And because he can't be used for gym defense, his defensive breakpoints aren't so important either, but that could change too (also PvP). Taking 5 vs 6 dmg from a Vine Whip spamming Venasuar is a relative big deal over the duration of a battle.

Hope this makes some sense lol. The top 3 all have appeal and neither of them would be a mistake to choose, but I like C best.

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I also like C the best. But you´re absolutely right about neither 1 of em being a mistake. I am a bit obsessive about the 15 attack though, which is why I´m leaning towards option C. Thanks for the reply!

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by Peach 7 years 5 months ago

Use weather boosted one.

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